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Re: AW: New Dirty Bomb study
Once again, it was my mistake to note the Goiania
incident as an RDD event. My eyes saw Goiania, the
neurons said Bogota and the fingers did the rest.
However I am still not convinced the event was due just
to "scavengers" as most have noted. This area as well
as much of Brazil and Columbia have had active
guerrilla and counter insurgency movements while the
hunt for radioactive materials has been going on for a
very long time, much longer than 1987. Cesium-137
brings a nice sum on the black market even back in
1987. Again some of us look at events for other reasons
than just scientific reconstruction for cause and
effect.
And Franz if that is not good enough for you then tough.
Gerry Blackwood
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:15:54 +0300, Jose Julio Rozental
wrote:
>
> Dear Franz,
>
>
> Thank you very much for your message and the mention
of
> my activities in
> Goiania.
>
>
>
> To all,
>
>
>
> In fact I managed the response in Goiania as general
> coordinator and I was
> there since the begin, with active participation in
all
> the response phases.
>
> Soon, I have to return to Goiania, where I spent
there,
> living there, for
> about 3 years to organize the post accident phase.
>
> Goiania was not a RDD - Categorically I affirm this
and
> few decision makers
> know the complexity of Goiania better than me!
>
> In fact currently, because Goiania it is always
> mentioned as example on what
> could be happen in case of a RDD, I am writing a paper
> and I have selected
> the title:
>
> "Radiological Accident in Goiania x RDD: Similarities
> and Differences" to be
> presented in any International Congress or Conference
> or even Seminar to
> discuss The Lessons of Goiania to be considered in
case
> of an Emergency
> Response due a RDD - all kind of lessons (political,
> economical, social,
> psychological, media and technical). I do believe the
> presentation of these
> lessons of Goiania will be of great value to
Regulatory
> Authorities and to
> those dealing with decisions, especially when you have
> no time to discuss,
> and have to act.
>
> A question to discuss is: Could a RDD be worst than
> Goiania?
>
> Yes or Not or Yes and Not give rise to questions
> concerning the reasons and
> directions.
>
> Finally, 16 years after Goiania and until now there
are
> many lessons to be
> learned about
>
>
>
> Jose Julio Rozental
>
> joseroze@netvision.net.il
>
> Israel
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Franz Schoenhofer"
<franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT>
> To: "Gerry Blackwood" <gpblackwood@justice.com>
> Cc: <Clayton.Bradt@LABOR.STATE.NY.US>;
> <radsafe-digest@list.vanderbilt.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:15 PM
> Subject: AW: AW: New Dirty Bomb study
>
>
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Gerry Blackwood
[mailto:gpblackwood@justice.com]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Jänner 2004 19:17
> > An: franz.schoenhofer@chello.at
> > Cc: Clayton.Bradt@LABOR.STATE.NY.US;
> radsafe-digest@list.vanderbilt.edu
> > Betreff: Re: AW: New Dirty Bomb study
> >
> >
> > Franz, maybe things as reported are really not what
> > they purported to be. It would not be the first
time.
> > Back in 87 there were a flurry of reports on this
> > incident and one in Bogota. I am sure you have much
> > better sources than I do.
> >
> > -------------------------
> > The sources for the Goiania accident are accessable
> for anybody. One of
> the
> > best sources - or rather the best source - is Jose
> Julio Rozental, who has
> > not only been the leading figure in the evaluation
of
> this accident, but
> > also is a very frequent contributor to RADSAFE. Yes,
> I had the privilege
> to
> > meet him personally - but only many years after I
met
> others who were
> > involved in the evaluation and I read scientific
> reports about it. The
> IAEA
> > has published reports not only on Goiania, but also
> on many other
> accidents
> > with radioactive material from abandoned sources -
> and, believe me, there
> is
> > such a lot, which does not make it to the mass
media.
> For the mass media
> > only potential disasters are of interest in
> connection with "nuclear" or
> > "radioactivity", when real people are hurt or killed
> in accidents, no
> paper
> > is interested, no TV-shows are organized. I did not
> read, hear or see
> > anything on the Goiania accident in Austrian mass
> media. The same - or at
> > most a few lines on page 27 - is true for all other
> accidents, the fatal
> and
> > lethal ones included.
> >
> > The IAEA is struggling for better protection of
> sources and offering help
> > with expertise to member states.
> >
> > I do not know, where your "informations" come from,
> but as a rule you can
> be
> > sure, that mass media or statements of certain
> politicians are not
> reliable
> > sources on such topics. Neither are studies
financied
> by state agencies,
> > political parties or movements, lobbies or interest
> groups which have an
> > interest on a certain outcome reliable. At least
they
> have to be checked
> > very carefully.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Franz
> >
> >
> >
>
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