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Re: Study Raises Projection For 'Dirty Bomb' Toll



Dr. Rozental,

Thanks for the reply.

What I am trying to say is that not source do pose the

same risk.  I think we should get idea across to the

public.  I do not think that a traffic accident

involving Tc-99m, with a half life of 6 hours should

pose the same concern (read fear) to the public as a

radiographic source like Ir-192.  When the government

says that 200 sources a year are not accounted for,

does that give the public confidence in our regulatory

agencies?  



I am certainly not trying to say material control is

not important.  And yes, accidents involved strong

radiation sources should be taken seriously.  What I

am saying is that we should scale our level of actions

to the risk to the public.  I do not think a

laboratory dealing with kBq sources should be treated

with the same risk as a irradiator facility.



--- Jose Julio Rozental <joseroze@netvision.net.il>

wrote:

> Dear John,

> 

> If you, working in the area, ask a question like

> this: "do all  sources pose

> the same risk?"

> how do you think the question the general public

> could ask?

> Enforcement is applied according with the degree of

> violation and the danger

> that source could pose to people and environment.

> About your remark: "As noted only 5 sources in the

> last 14 years have posed

> a significant risk to the public"

> I remind the words of Hans Blix, IAEA General

> Director at the time of the

> Goiania Accident -- "De fact that accidents are

> uncommon should not give

> grounds for complacency. No radiological accident is

> acceptable, and one

> that threatens widespread contamination is bound to

> alarm a public that not

> yet come to terms with radioactivity".

> 

> Jose Julio Rozental

> joseroze@netvision.net.il

> Israel

> 

> 

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "John Jacobus" <crispy_bird@yahoo.com>

> To: "Tom" <tom@xrfcorp.com>; "Jose Julio Rozental"

> <joseroze@netvision.net.il>

> Cc: "Stewart Faber" <radproject@optonline.net>;

> "Stewart Farber"

> <farbersa@optonline.net>; "Hart, Tim P GS (RASO)"

> <harttp@RASO.NAVY.MIL>;

> "Radsafe" <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 9:12 PM

> Subject: Re: Study Raises Projection For 'Dirty

> Bomb' Toll

> 

> 

> > I think one should also ask the question "do all

> > sources pose the same risk?"  There are, according

> to

> > Commissioner Dicus,  about 200 sources reported

> lost

> > every year.  Last year we lost a 100 microcurie

> Co-60

> > marker source used in nuclear medicine.  Should

> > security of this item be as rigorous (translates

> to

> > money) as a radiography source?  As noted only 5

> > sources in the last 14 years have posed a

> significant

> > risk to the public.

> >

> > I agree that some groups need to have better

> control,

> > but all things are not equal.

> >

> > --- Tom <tom@xrfcorp.com> wrote:

> > > I have to agree with Jose.  According to EPA

> there

> > > are thousands of

> > > orphan sources right here in the good old USA. 

> I

> > > would venture to say

> > > that that number of sources missing says

> something

> > > about controls in the

> > > USA needing to be improved.

> > >

> > > Tom Hazlett

> > >

> > > joseroze@netvision.net.il wrote:

> > >

> > >  >Please, consider:

> > >  >a) poor control in Brazil

> > >  >b) poor control by user

> > >  >

> > >  >In the First case we can consider general

> context,

> > > and this is not

> > > correct.

> > >  >

> > >  >Poor control by user you can find anywhere in

> many

> > > developed countries,

> > >  >including USA

> > >  >

> > >  >AN OVERVIEW OF MANAGING THE U.S. RADIATION

> > > PROTECTION PROGRAM CONCERNING

> > >  >GENERALLY-LICENSED SOURCES AND DEVICES

> > >  >Commissioner Greta Joy Dicus, U.S. Nuclear

> > > Regulatory Commission

> > >  >Washington, D.C. 20555

> > >  >Keynote Presentation at the

> > >  >10th Annual International Radiation Protection

> > > Association Conference

> > >  >May 15, 2000

> > >  >Hiroshima, Japan

> > >  >

> > >  >...............

> > >  >"U.S. operational experience with radioactive

> > > materials includes few

> > >  >accidents with generally-licensed devices, and

> > > only five have resulted in

> > >  >potential radiation overexposures to the

> general

> > > public since 1989.

> > > The U.S.

> > >  >metal recycling industry has been particularly

> > > affected by losses and

> > > thefts

> > >  >of radioactive sources, some of which were

> > > generally-licensed and have

> > >  >subsequently become mixed with metal scrap

> > > destined for recycling."

> > >  >

> > >  >"For a smelting event involving a large

> radiation

> > > source (believed to

> > > not be

> > >  >a generally licensed device) one U.S. steel

> mills

> > > incurred an average cost

> > >  >of approximately US$ ten million, while yet in

> > > another case the cost

> > >  >approached US$ 23 million."

> > >  >

> > >  >"Lost, stolen, and abandoned

> generally-licensed

> > > sources or devices

> > > appearing

> > >  >in recycled metals constitute a worldwide

> problem.

> > > Thirty other smelting

> > >  >events have been reported in at least eighteen

> > > other countries (1). Others

> > >  >may have occurred but have not come to our

> > > attention or cannot be

> > >  >confirmed."

> > >  >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>----------------------------------------------------------

> > >  >

> > >  >USA PERSPECTIVES

> > >  >SAFETY & SECURITY OF RADIOACTIVE SOURCES

> > >  >BY GRETA JOY DICUS

> > >  >IAEA BULLETIN, 41/3/1999

> > >  >

> > >  >

> > >  >............................

> > >  >"Each year, the NRC receives about 200 reports

> of

> > > lost, stolen or

> > > abandoned

> > >  >radioactive sources and devices. It is

> important

> > > to note that such reports

> > >  >are received only when licensees recall that

> they

> > > have a source, know that

> > >  >it is lost or stolen, know that there is a

> > > requirement to report the

> > > loss or

> > >  >theft, and make that report."

> > >  >"In some cases, the loss of control of

> radioactive

> > > sources resulted in

> > >  >radiation overexposures of unsuspecting

> members of

> > > the public. For

> > > example,

> > >  >in 1979, an unshielded 1 GBq (28 Ci)

> iridium-192

> > > industrial radiography

> > >  >source was accidentally left at a temporary

> job

> > > site in California. A

> > >  >worker, not knowing what itwas, picked it up

> and

> > > placed it  into a back

> > >  >pocket of his trousers. The dose to his

> buttock

> > > exceeded 200 Sv(20,000

> > > rem).

> > >  >

> > >  >In 1992, a 0.14 GBq (3.7 Ci) iridium-192

> > > brachytherapy source was

> > > accidently

> > >  >disconnected from the cable attaching it to a

> > > remote afterloader while it

> > >  >was emplaced in a patient. The source

> eventually

> > > became dislodged from the

> > >  >patient together with surgical dressings. The

> > > discarded dressings

> 

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"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

Thomas Jefferson



-- John

John Jacobus, MS

Certified Health Physicist

e-mail:  crispy_bird@yahoo.com



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