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RE: Equine radiology



Hi



Actually, it is 20 mA. Most equine portable units are underpowered as

compared to general diagnostic x-ray units.  The average output is 20 mA, 80

kVp, and time being the variable.  Some machines may say they vary the mA

(10- 15 -20), but usually if you use 10 mA you get 90 kVp, 15 mA @ 80, and

20 mA at 70 kVp.  Again, Time being the only variable.



If using an average 400 speed film/screen combination, the time averaged

about .15 to .2 seconds for a P3 (hoof and distal foot x-ray at 30 inches)

up to .25 to .3 seconds for a carpal study.  The machines are single phase,

half wave and 30 inches is used as SID to compensate for the half wave.  The

machines are designed to be positioned on a stand to the operator can stand

away from the box and the horse.  They are lightweight and most meet the 100

mR scatter limit due to small amounts of lead wrapped around the miniature

x-ray tube.  The person holding the cassette should be using some type of

mechanical holder and not his hands to hold the cassette to position himself

away from the primary beam.



I cannot find the actual scatter and leakage figures I did when I was at a

Veterinary Teaching Hospital, but the student holders and myself received

minimal readings on our badges for the years I was there doing this time of

work.  Other examinations gave us a reading  but for equine work with this

machine, there shouldn't be any reading.



On the other hand, in the field, I have seen veterinarians holding the x-ray

machine (a box about 9 inches square) directly on their pelvis to steady it

and not using a stand.  There the dosimeter on their collar might not read

anything, but the gonadal area is receiving about 1-2 mRem per exposure from

tube leakage.  They sometimes had the owner of the animal holding the

cassette and from some of the radiographs I've seen, they were directly in

the primary beam.  Usually the owner had no apron, gloves, or dosimeter to

measure a dose.



Questions?  contact me.



Richard Kay, MSc, RT(R)(M), MSRP, FASRT

Imaging Resources, Inc.

richard@imaging-resources.com





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Subject: Re: Equine radiology





Eyeball estimate from NCRP 54 Fig 4 is 6 mR/mAs at 90 kVp 40".  It

seems likley that your suplicant meant mAs instead of mA, so using 20

mAs gives 120 mrem entrance dose per image.  Using the rough

approximation of 0.1% scatter at 1 meter, the handlers will get about

0.2 mrem per image, of course dependent on how close they are.



So, ~ 100 to 160 mrem to the horse and ~ 0.1 to 0.4 mrem for the

handlers.



-Gary Isenhower



Subject:        	Equine radiology

Date sent:      	Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:44:48 -0500

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Anyone with some equine radiology experience out there? Got this

request this morning:



"Please tell me approximately how many mrem the equine patient and

horse handler are exposed to during a standard limb

(hoof)radiographic

procedure using a portable x-ray machine (70-90 kVp and 10-30

mA)?"



Hey, with a question like this, "who ya gonna call?" Radsafe, of

course, Dosebusters Extraodinaire.



Mike



Michael G. Stabin, PhD, CHP

Assistant Professor of Radiology and Radiological Sciences

Department of Radiology and Radiological Sciences

Vanderbilt University

1161 21st Avenue South

Nashville, TN 37232-2675

Phone (615) 343-0068

Fax   (615) 322-3764

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