AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] Bob Cherry on pyrophoric uranium munitions

[Franz Schönhofer]

Don, 
Yes you are right. Have a look at my "final message" to this person. I
think we should keep such persons out of RADSAFE. If not by banning then
by ignoring. The last comment of Salsman would in Europe clearly
initiate a legal case of racism and eugenics.

Best regards,
 
Franz

Franz Schoenhofer
PhD, MR iR
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Vienna
AUSTRIA
phone -43-0699-1168-1319


> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im
> Auftrag von Mercado, Don
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. April 2005 00:42
> An: radsafe at radlab.nl
> Betreff: RE: AW: [ RadSafe ] Bob Cherry on pyrophoric uranium
munitions
> 
> Gentlemen, do a Google search on bovik.org and look at Salsman's
agenda.
> Also, he has a petition into the NRC here:
> 
>    http://www.bovik.org/du/du-petition.html
> 
> Don't waste your breath or bandwidth.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
> Behalf Of James Salsman
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:27 PM
> To: Franz Schönhofer
> Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: Re: AW: [ RadSafe ] Bob Cherry on pyrophoric uranium
munitions
> 
> 
> Franz Schönhofer wrote:
> 
> > You mention "poison gas strictly forbidden by the laws of war" -
what
> > are these laws of war?
> 
> The 1925 Geneva Protocol bans the use of "asphyxiating, poisonous, or
> other gases, and of all analogous liquids."  The 1899 and 1907 Hague
> Regulations ban the use of "poison or poisoned weapons."
> 
> >... Pyrophoric means that it reacts with oxygen.
> 
> Actually, pyrophoric means that it burns in air.  Uranium reacts with
> Nitrogen at 800 degrees Celsius.  Uranium burns in air at above 1100
> degrees Celsius.
> 
> >... to form nitrates would be a rather complicated and unreasonable
> >reaction.
> 
> On the contrary, the only question is what proportion falls out of the
> fire's plasma:
> 
>       UO2 + 2 NO + 2 O2 --> UO2(NO3)2
> 
>       UO2 + 2 NO2 + O2 --> UO2(NO3)2
> 
>       2 UO3 + 4 NO + 2 O2 --> 2 UO2(NO3)2
> 
> > Your question of nitrogen compounds (as a chemist I do not know of
> > any) and very specially on UO3 species (is it UO3 or not?) leads me
to
> > conclude that you are just another one of these pseudo-scientists,
who
> > probably have studied a year of chemistry and now regard themselves
as
> > the ultimate experts in nuclear issues or whatever else, just as
> > required by some umbrella organisation which finances you.
> 
> The Gmelin Handbook and other actinide chemistry books indicate that
about
> 1/5th of uranium burned in air oxidizes as the UO3 species.  The Army
has
> never detected that species in any of their open-air burns, because it
is
> much lighter than the other oxides and wafts much further away from
the
> burn.  The vapor pressure of uranyl nitrate is much, much greater than
> that of UO3, so of course it travels further, and, it precipitates as
a
> film instead of clumping.
> 
> They have never detected nitrogen compounds (including two species of
> insoluble nitrides, by the way) because, for some reason, they have
never
> bothered to look.  I am not certain I believe the assertion that the
> scientists in charge of the uranium munitions safety studies were
unaware
> that uranium reacts with nitrogen, but as you, an expert chemist,
assert
> the same thing, it is difficult for me to tell.  I learned the
reaction
> temperature in less than two days of library research.  In my most
recent
> petition to the NRC, I have alleged gross negligence, which is the
willful
> and reckless disregard for the safety of others.  The NRC is obligated
to
> complete an investigation.  We will see where the evidence leads.
> 
> > Could you provide your political agenda clearly, so that we know
whom
> > we have to deal with?
> 
> Certainly.  I have a young daughter, and I would prefer that when she
> comes of age, the proportion of males in the population with
teratogenic
> sperm is kept to a minimum.
> 
> Sincerely,
> James Salsman
> 
> 
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