[ RadSafe ] adjunct points and question about deepoceansubduction zone waste disposal

[Syd H. Levine]

> It's been a good idea for around 50 years, but try to get it by any of the
> environmentalist groups.  Besides, even if the waste issues were resolved 
> with this simple elegant solution, they would object to other 
> considerations.
>
> Certain of the most rabid environmentalists now saying nuclear energy is a 
> lesser evil than global warming is one funny cosmic joke.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Flanigan, Floyd" <Floyd.Flanigan at nmcco.com>
> To: "jjcohen" <jjcohen at prodigy.net>; "James Salsman" <james at bovik.org>; 
> <radsafe at radlab.nl>; "Kent, Michael D." <Michael.Kent at nmcco.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] adjunct points and question about 
> deepoceansubduction zone waste disposal
>
>
> Sounds like a good idea ... but try to get that one past GreenPeace. Logic 
> has little to do with it in most cases.
>
> Floyd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jjcohen [mailto:jjcohen at prodigy.net]
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:20 PM
> To: Flanigan, Floyd; James Salsman; radsafe at radlab.nl; Kent, Michael D.
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] adjunct points and question about deep
> oceansubduction zone waste disposal
>
>
> Subduction disposal would be bothersome, problematic, and unnecessary. Why
> not just simply let solidified waste sink to the bottom of deep ocean
> trenches and forget about it. Given this were done, there in no way that 
> any
> significant human or biological exposure could result. The downside of 
> this
> approach is that it would be so easy and inexpensive  that the large sums 
> of
> money currently available for nucwaste research and activity would no 
> longer
> be available to those profiting from it.
> Jerry Cohen
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Flanigan, Floyd <Floyd.Flanigan at nmcco.com>
> To: James Salsman <james at bovik.org>; <radsafe at radlab.nl>; Kent, Michael D.
> <Michael.Kent at nmcco.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:49 PM
> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] adjunct points and question about deep
> oceansubduction zone waste disposal
>
>
>>What is the opposition to ocean subduction zone disposal?
>
> That whole 'borate the ocean for reactivity control' thing kind'a sticks 
> in
> my craw personally.
>
> Floyd W.Flanigan B.S.Nuc.H.P.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl]On
> Behalf Of James Salsman
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:11 PM
> To: radsafe at radlab.nl; Kent, Michael D.
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] adjunct points and question about deep ocean
> subduction zone waste disposal
>
>
> Michael Kent wrote:
>
> > Is this increase documented in any scientifically peer
> > reviewed papers, by scientist without an agenda?
>
> Yes, by two of them, and I'm not going to post them again:
>   http://radlab.nl/pipermail/radsafe/2005-April/001198.html
>
> >... How about looking to where these munitions are made?
>
> They are not burned where they are made, as far as I know.
>
> >... How do you know that any birth defect is not caused by
> > other factors of being in a theater of war?
>
> Noncombatant cohort studies.
>
> >... the human body when exposed to an extreme amount of prolonged
> > stress (i.e. being in a war zone) suffers some very real side
> > affects that is analogous to being poisoned.
>
> Stress was officially ruled out by the DoD in January.  Stress
> does not cause birth defects.  The pyridostigmine bromide and
> other inoculations were all ruled out by 2001.
>
> >... I think that with a lot of anti-nuclear people this has
> > become your religion.
>
> I am not entirely opposed to nuclear power generation.  If the
> United States would agree to dispose of its nuclear waste in
> deep ocean subduction zones (as I seem to recall the French do)
> then I would drop my opposition to nuclear power.  It would in
> that case be one of the two most appropriate complements to wind
> power, which is the only direct mitigation of greenhouse gas
> effects.  As it is, all our stupid waste disposal pools are an
> invitation to disastrous attacks.
>
> What is the opposition to ocean subduction zone disposal?
>
> Sincerely,
> James Salsman
>
>
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