[ RadSafe ] Re: Radiation deficiency remediation

John Jacobus crispy_bird at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 15 23:13:03 CEST 2005


Dr. Luan,

1.  Obviously you do not understand the need for
age-correcting of cancer statistics.  This is
necessary for establishing patterns to determine
causes and prevention programs.  I am sure that such
statistics are available, even if you do not wish to
use them

2.  With regard to lung cancer in Taiwan, I found some
information for you.

"Risk factors for primary lung cancer among
non-smoking women in Taiwan."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9126500

"Patterns of lung cancer mortality in 23 countries:
application of the age-period-cohort model."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15748289

Environmental exposure and lung cancer among
nonsmokers: an example of Taiwanese female lung
cancer.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12826030


3.  Discussion of what?

--- yuan-chi luan <nbcsoc at hotmail.com> wrote:

---------------------------------

Dear John:

1, It may be not so simple in USA, but it is simple in
Taiwan. For example the cancer deaths and population
in  2003 was  35,201 persons and 22,452,662 persons
respectively, the cancer mortality of Taiwanese was
thus 156.01 persons/100,000 person-year in the
official statistics of government. The mortality rate
in various age both in USA and Taiwan are valuable to
know the elder people have higher rate, but not so
important.

2, I have not read a report that indicated exactly
cigarettes increased the lung and total cancers in
Taiwan. I hope the statistics of cancer deaths in the
future with a remark indicating smoking or unsmoking.
Do they do that in USA? So that I do not know the
relationship of smoking habit and lung cancers and the
life span.   

3. You think the discussion would bendfit people?

Y.C.   Luan
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>From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
>To: yuan-chi luan <nbcsoc at hotmail.com>,
blc+ at pitt.edu,  uniqueproducts at comcast.net
>CC: dckosloff at firstenergycorp.com,
hflong at pacbell.net, jjcohen at prodigy.net, 
radsafe at radlab.nl, radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl,
shliu at iner.gov.tw
>Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: Radiation deficiency
remediation
>Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:21:13 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Dr. Luan,
>It is not that simple to take the number of cancers
>divided by the population.  It is better to look at
>the number of cancers in various age groups.
>
>Consider that young people years ago smoked
>cigarettes.  With improved medical care and
nutrition,
>people are living longer, so there are more older
>people.  As the those who smoked as young people get
>older, increasing numbers die of cancer.  Thus, it
>looks like more cancers are occurring.  However, if
>the current young people do not smoke, the lung
cancer
>rates will go down as they get older.  That is part
of
>what we are seeing the U.S.  If Tiawanese stop
smoking
>and the older smokers die, your cancer rates will
also
>decrease.
>
>
>
>
>--- yuan-chi luan <nbcsoc at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>---------------------------------
>
>Dear Dr. Jacobus:
>
>Thanks for you imforamtion of NIC about the
increasing
>cancer in the USA. I am not qualified to talk any
>thing on this topic, but the cancer mortality
>increasing to humanity is always concerned with the
>hmanity. I do not know the assertion of Dr.
Calabrease
>though he  studies the relationship with radological,
>chemical and biological substances.
>
>The cancer mortality is increasing is indicated in
>many reference. The NIC indicated the situation
>started to have some change since 1990, it is a good
>thing to know.    Computig the the cancer mortality
in
>Taiwan is very simple, the number of the cancer
deaths
>divided by the number of population in that  year. I
>could not figure out clearly how the cancer mortality
>rate was obtained in gigure A and B in the NIC
>Statements. I do not want to make comment. I want the
>NIC will think over the Co-60 contamination 
incidence
>in Taiwan.
>
>Y.C.  Luan
>
>======================================================
>
>
> >From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
> >To: yuan-chi luan <nbcsoc at hotmail.com>,
>blc+ at pitt.edu,  uniqueproducts at comcast.net
> >CC: dckosloff at firstenergycorp.com,
>hflong at pacbell.net, jjcohen at prodigy.net,
>radsafe at radlab.nl, radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl,
>shliu at iner.gov.tw
> >Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: Radiation deficiency
>remediation
> >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:14:01 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Dr. Luan,
> >
> >With regard to increasing cancer in the U.S.,
please
> >see the following, particularly Figure A
> >
>
>http://www3.cancer.gov/legis/testimony/senfy2001.html
> >
> >. . .
>
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>"Embarrassed, obscure and feeble sentences are
generally, if not always, the result of embarrassed,
obscure and feeble thought."
>Hugh Blair, 1783
>
>-- John
>John Jacobus, MS
>Certified Health Physicist
>e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com
>
>
>
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-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
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