[ RadSafe ] Re: First Ever Intentional Hormetic X-Ray

[Flanigan, Floyd]

Puhleeese ... tell me that was a facetious statement.

-----Original Message-----
From: AnaLog Services, Inc. [mailto:AnaLog at logwell.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:53 PM
To: Flanigan, Floyd; ellison1 at localnet.com; radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: First Ever Intentional Hormetic X-Ray


You just don't understand...they just want to make the world safer for us 
all.  The regulators truly believe that crap shoot can be eliminated if they 
can just promulgate one more regulation or lower that allowed exposure just 
a little more, or ban that one particularly bad habit, etc., etc.

Syd H. Levine, RSO and Chief Bottle Washer
AnaLog Services, Inc.
Phone:  270-276-5671
Telefax:  270-276-5588
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Flanigan, Floyd" <Floyd.Flanigan at nmcco.com>
To: <ellison1 at localnet.com>; <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:28 PM
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: First Ever Intentional Hormetic X-Ray


Threshold, threshold, threshold, threshold, THRESHOLD ..... there! I got it 
out of my system. There is no hard evidence that low level chronic exposures 
cause ANY ill effect ... BECAUSE ... every MINUTE a human being continues to 
live, the chance increases that that human being will contract some 
illness/disease/ailment/malady ... it's a statistical FACT that the longer 
you exist, the greater the chances are that something bad will happen to 
you. We've been through this all before ... the longer you stand in the 
middle of the highway, the greater the chances of being hit by a car ... The 
longer you stand in piranha infested waters, the greater your chances of 
being bitten ... nudity increases these chances considerably. The longer you 
LIVE ... the greater the chances you will stop doing so. It's a crap-shoot. 
Every day you wake up and you throw your hat back into the proverbial ring 
of death. You put on your pants (unless you are protesting pants ... in that 
case ... put on your kilt/tunic etc. ...Just please ... if you are a guy ... 
no culottes)... you go out into the big bad world and you take your chances. 
You could get hit by a bus or contract cancer. So ... being exposed ... 
outside a sterile, clinical environment with birth to death controls and 
selected population isolation ... to low level radiation, over a long period 
of time ... CANNOT BE PROVEN TO HAVE ANY ILL EFFECT!!!!!! The parameters 
within which such a study would have to be conducted cannot be held to, due 
to the whole 'humans aren't lab animals' problem. When they change the laws 
so that we can rent twelve humans from birth to age thirty-five ... keeping 
3 as a control group and raising the other nine in a completely sterile 
environment with an above average background dose rate constant of about 
5mr/hr ... then we might get some meaningful data. Until then ... it's all 
empirical fluff. Now ... I know some humans who are on the fence as far as 
qualifying for non-lab-animal status ... but that is another issue. There 
are too many environmental variables standing in line waiting for their 
chance to do you in, for us to try to pin ANYTHING on low level radiation 
exposure. Please find another tree to bark up. This one is a 'no barking 
zone'. Persistent barkers will be fitted with sound activated shock collars 
in an effort to save having to go through this again.

Floyd W.Flanigan B.S.Nuc.H.P.

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl]On
Behalf Of Karl Ellison
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:58 AM
To: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re: First Ever Intentional Hormetic X-Ray


In most people's LNT eye, what Jay Caplan is doing takes some courage. I'm
disappointed by the posts towards him that amount to public jeering.

Radiation hormesis has been shown to hold in animal experiments many times,
and seems to follow true in humans (one of *many* examples on the 'net:
http://www.jpands.org/vol9no1/chen.pdf).

I wish someone would point us all to an article that provides some evidence
of LNT's truth with regards to chronic low-dose radiation health jeopardies.

- Karl Ellison


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