[ RadSafe ] Re: First Ever Intentional Hormetic X-Ray

John Jacobus crispy_bird at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 20 14:54:43 CEST 2005


One of the purposes of government is to protect its
citizens, and it runs the gamet.  Following the
Triangle Shirtwaist Factory in NYC, child labor laws
and fire safety codes were put into place.  Recently,
you have EPA requiring remedication to 25 mrem annual
exposure limits.  From the most serious hazards to the
truely trivial.

The application of science to make laws is not
unusual.  Law makers are responsive to those groups
that are the most vocal.

--- "AnaLog Services, Inc." <AnaLog at logwell.com>
wrote:

> You just don't understand...they just want to make
> the world safer for us 
> all.  The regulators truly believe that crap shoot
> can be eliminated if they 
> can just promulgate one more regulation or lower
> that allowed exposure just 
> a little more, or ban that one particularly bad
> habit, etc., etc.
> 
> Syd H. Levine, RSO and Chief Bottle Washer
> AnaLog Services, Inc.
> Phone:  270-276-5671
> Telefax:  270-276-5588
> E-mail:  analog at logwell.com
> URL:  www.logwell.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Flanigan, Floyd" <Floyd.Flanigan at nmcco.com>
> To: <ellison1 at localnet.com>; <radsafe at radlab.nl>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re: First Ever Intentional
> Hormetic X-Ray
> 
> 
> Threshold, threshold, threshold, threshold,
> THRESHOLD ..... there! I got it 
> out of my system. There is no hard evidence that low
> level chronic exposures 
> cause ANY ill effect ... BECAUSE ... every MINUTE a
> human being continues to 
> live, the chance increases that that human being
> will contract some 
> illness/disease/ailment/malady ... it's a
> statistical FACT that the longer 
> you exist, the greater the chances are that
> something bad will happen to 
> you. We've been through this all before ... the
> longer you stand in the 
> middle of the highway, the greater the chances of
> being hit by a car ... The 
> longer you stand in piranha infested waters, the
> greater your chances of 
> being bitten ... nudity increases these chances
> considerably. The longer you 
> LIVE ... the greater the chances you will stop doing
> so. It's a crap-shoot. 
> Every day you wake up and you throw your hat back
> into the proverbial ring 
> of death. You put on your pants (unless you are
> protesting pants ... in that 
> case ... put on your kilt/tunic etc. ...Just please
> ... if you are a guy ... 
> no culottes)... you go out into the big bad world
> and you take your chances. 
> You could get hit by a bus or contract cancer. So
> ... being exposed ... 
> outside a sterile, clinical environment with birth
> to death controls and 
> selected population isolation ... to low level
> radiation, over a long period 
> of time ... CANNOT BE PROVEN TO HAVE ANY ILL
> EFFECT!!!!!! The parameters 
> within which such a study would have to be conducted
> cannot be held to, due 
> to the whole 'humans aren't lab animals' problem.
> When they change the laws 
> so that we can rent twelve humans from birth to age
> thirty-five ... keeping 
> 3 as a control group and raising the other nine in a
> completely sterile 
> environment with an above average background dose
> rate constant of about 
> 5mr/hr ... then we might get some meaningful data.
> Until then ... it's all 
> empirical fluff. Now ... I know some humans who are
> on the fence as far as 
> qualifying for non-lab-animal status ... but that is
> another issue. There 
> are too many environmental variables standing in
> line waiting for their 
> chance to do you in, for us to try to pin ANYTHING
> on low level radiation 
> exposure. Please find another tree to bark up. This
> one is a 'no barking 
> zone'. Persistent barkers will be fitted with sound
> activated shock collars 
> in an effort to save having to go through this
> again.
> 
> Floyd W.Flanigan B.S.Nuc.H.P.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl]On
> Behalf Of Karl Ellison
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:58 AM
> To: radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re: First Ever Intentional
> Hormetic X-Ray
> 
> 
> In most people's LNT eye, what Jay Caplan is doing
> takes some courage. I'm
> disappointed by the posts towards him that amount to
> public jeering.
> 
> Radiation hormesis has been shown to hold in animal
> experiments many times,
> and seems to follow true in humans (one of *many*
> examples on the 'net:
> http://www.jpands.org/vol9no1/chen.pdf).
> 
> I wish someone would point us all to an article that
> provides some evidence
> of LNT's truth with regards to chronic low-dose
> radiation health jeopardies.
> 
> - Karl Ellison
> 
> 
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-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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