AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] transfer factors

Franz Schönhofer franz.schoenhofer at chello.at
Sun Apr 24 22:04:26 CEST 2005


Dear Fred,

Thank you for the links you provided. I just wonder, whether this was
directed to me or to James Salsman. 

I am a member of the International Union of Radioecologists (IUR) and am
well acquainted with the Erica-project. Though I would not mind if the
Chernobyl accident never would have happened I have learnt really a lot
from it including radioecology. 

James Salsman will never be able to learn anything from these links,
though he pretends to be a specialist in everything nuclear or
radioactive which entitles him for all discussions on RADSAFE. For
participating in RADSAFE discussions at least a faint specific knowledge
should be required, which he does not have. We (including me) waste our
time on this person. 

Best regards,

Franz

Franz Schoenhofer
PhD, MR iR
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Vienna
AUSTRIA
phone -43-0699-1168-1319


> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Fred Dawson [mailto:fd003f0606 at blueyonder.co.uk]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. April 2005 21:35
> An: James Salsman; Franz Schönhofer
> Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
> Betreff: Re: AW: [ RadSafe ] transfer factors
> 
> If your interested in radioecology  have a look at
> 
> http://www.erica-project.org/
> 
> http://www.iur-uir.org/
> 
> Fred Dawson
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Salsman" <james at bovik.org>
> To: "Franz Schönhofer" <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>
> Cc: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:00 AM
> Subject: Re: AW: [ RadSafe ] transfer factors
> 
> 
> Franz,
> 
> Thank you for your kind words.  I studied mathematics at Carnegie
> Mellon University in the 1980s, did some ultimately unmatriculated
> engineering study at Northwestern in the early '90s, and did some
> lab work for Stanford in 1997-8.  Most of my recent studies and
> work involve statistics, primarily.
> 
> What do you think a transfer factor is?  My impression was that
> Khalid was asking about the heavy metal uptake rates of various
> organisms.
> 
> Are you able to suggest a better way of how Khalid might learn them?
> 
> Sincerely,
> James Salsman
> 
> > I imagine, that Khalid will be extremely satisfied with this Salsman
> > comment, a comment from an obviously well experienced radioecology
> > expert. BTW I know quite a few of the people who have compiled the
IAEA
> > publication. This publication does not contain anything on transfer
> > factors, which Khalid could use. Neither does the second link
provide
> > anything usable. What the recommendation of DOE to wash radish
before
> > consumption has to do with Khalids request must be some mystical
ritual.
> > Anybody who eats radish or potatoes without having washed them and
> > removed adhering soil?
> > I recognize that James Salsman, who did not reveal his scientific
> > background yet, is not only an expert on uranium-high-temperature
> > chemistry and DU, but also an expert in radioecology!
> >
> > James, your postings are really funny and I start to enjoy them!
> >
> > Franz
> >
> >
> >
> > Franz Schoenhofer
> > PhD, MR iR
> > Habicherg. 31/7
> > A-1160 Vienna
> > AUSTRIA
> > phone -43-0699-1168-1319
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im
> >>Auftrag von James Salsman
> >>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2005 23:07
> >>An: kaleissa at kacst.edu.sa
> >>Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
> >>Betreff: [ RadSafe ] transfer factors
> >>
> >>Khalid Aleissa wrote:
> >>
> >> >... where can I find a comprehensive document about transfer
> >> > factors of radionuclides from water to different parts
> >> > of different plants species and micro organisms.
> >>
> >>Please see page 20 (pdf page 30) of "Radiological Conditions
> >>in Areas of Kuwait with Residues of Depleted Uranium," by the
> >>IAEA (2003):
> >>   http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub1164_web.pdf
> >>
> >>C. van Netten and D.R. Morley in Arch. Environ. Health., vol. 38,
> >>no. 3 (1983), pp. 172-175, will also be of interest:
> >>
> >
> >
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&lis
> > t_
> >
> >>uids=6870355&dopt=Abstract
> >>
> >>Note that there are official U.S. Dept. of Energy recommendations
> >>suggesting that washing radishes removes uranium from them.  I
> >>believe that to be false, for both radishes and potatoes.
> >>
> >>Kathy Delucas, email duke at lanl.gov; phone +1.505.667.5225, has
> >>more information about evaluating plant uptake.
> >>
> >>Sincerely,
> >>James Salsman
> >>
> >>
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