[ RadSafe ] Re: CORRECTION DU hormesis?

[John Jacobus]

Personally, I find your inability to read and relate
radiation exposures and exposure rates to be very
troubling.  How can you possible espouse information
about radiation risk and benefits without any real
understanding of the subject?  If you were to detect
an increase in radiation for a "dirty" bomb, you would
not even know what to tell the public what the doses
really are!

As usual you cite studies that either do not support
your claims of hormesis, like the NSW study, or are
incomplete, like the Tiawan study.  But, again, you
can't even read the equipment you are using.

--- howard long <hflong at pacbell.net> wrote:

> It is 0.5 mrem/hour that I read 1 cm inside my
> part-thorium belt, NOT 500 mrem/hr.
> Note that I made the same error wth ambient "15
> mrem/hr" (1,000x actual)
>  My misstatement must have been from mental block of
> the decimal and zeros when reading the palmRAD. That
> error is unlikely when monitoring exposures with an
> all-too-possible dirty bonb.
>  
> Todd, you are correct. The dose I believe would give
> best hormesis is about 1 mrad/hr for 8 hours a day
> for full body radiation to receive about 4 rad/year.
> This is more than the NSworkers received (0.5 rad)
> but much less than the Taiwan apt dwellers.
>  
>  Local exposure with the belt I'm trying because U
> ore was not readily available in quantity to put
> under a bed for whole body exposure. So far, the 5
> lb belt is a nuisance I don't expect to be repeated.
> It will take 50 rad locally and repeatedly to
> increase blood supply at inflammation like bursitis
> or gangrene, to give prompt improvement useful for
> LDR treatment
>  
> Publicity of hormesis may reduce panic with public
> exposure. Erroneous current belief is that  a little
> radiation increases cancer risk, although the
> opposite is true.
>  
> Howard Long 
>   
> 
> John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> And why would you want to expose the skin to 500
> mrem/hr? How did you measure this dose rate? Is this
> a deep or shallow dose rate? (I am assuming you know
> the difference.)
> 
> You may want to check with some radiation
> oncologists
> about protracted skin damage. My understanding is
> that
> when you get up to about 30 Gy (3000 rad) you start
> to
> see effects like dermal atrophy, etc. 
> 
> --- howard long wrote:
> 
> > DU "Poison Dust" sounds like just what I need for
> my
> > hormesis belt.
> > 
> > To raise my exposure from the ambient 15 mrem/hr,
> > and have the benefits of the Taiwan apt dwellers
> > (Chen, Luan, JAm PsMar 2004), 1/6 the cancer, or
> the
> > nuclear shipyard workers,( 0.76 mortality rate
> when
> > extra 0.5 rem), I've been wearing a 5 lb belt of
> > used welding rods, 2% thorium. I can get up to 500
> > mrem/h on about 500scm of skin that way.
> > 
> > Who knows the typical radiation of DU on contact
> and
> > at, say 10 cm?
> > 
> > Howard Long 
> > 
> > Sandy Perle wrote:
> > Index:
> > 
> > Fast network for info exchange on Japan nuclear
> > accidents
> > KEPCO submits report on fatal steam pipe rupture
> > Fermilab experiment to beam neutrinos through
> > Dairyland
> > PPL says Unit 2 at Berwick plant set reliability
> > record
> > Areva, Westinghouse Chase China Nuclear Deals Amid
> > Global Slump
> > France signs on to pursue new nuclear technology
> > Film Poison DUst features vets exposed to DU
> 
> 


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-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com


	
		
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