AW: [ RadSafe ] Re: "Science" reports on background radiation andhealth

[John Jacobus]

Jim,
That is my point.  It "sounds like" what you want to
hear.  I would rather have references.  Because an
article appears in a scientific journal what makes you
believe that it has been reviewed.  Science is
evidence-based which is validated by others repeating
the studies.  Do you see anything that approaches a
scientific study in this article? 

What it says is "This yearlong essay series celebrates
125 years of Science by inviting researchers from
around the world to provide a regional view of the
scientific enterprise. Series editor, Ivan Amato" 

--- "Muckerheide, James" <jimm at WPI.EDU> wrote:

> That it doesn't make any difference what it 'sounds
> like' but what the
> content is.  That would not be in "Science" if the
> author could not have
> substantiated it whether the editors required
> endnotes or not.
> 
> Regards, Jim Muckerheide
> ==========================
> 
> > From: John Jacobus [mailto:crispy_bird at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:32 PM
> > 
> > And you point is . . .?
> >
> > 
> > --- Rainer.Facius at dlr.de wrote:
> > 
> > > John:
> > >
> > > 	It is the contents and not the sound that
> counst!
> > >
> > > Regards, Rainer
> > >
> > > Dr. Rainer Facius
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> > >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl
> > > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im Auftrag
> von
> > > John Jacobus
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. August 2005 15:38
> > > An: Maury Siskel; Muckerheide, James
> > > Cc: cdn-nucl-l at mailman1.cis.mcmaster.ca;
> > > mbrexchange at list.ans.org; radsafe
> > > Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: "Science" reports
> on
> > > background radiation andhealth
> > >
> > > And what is the paradox? What is important are
> > > results of epidemiological studies of the
> > > populations.  The statement that ". . . appear
> to be
> > > even healthier and to live longer than those
> living
> > > in control  areas that are not classified as
> HBRAs .
> > > . ." does not sound like a scientific statement
> to
> > > me.  I remember years ago where a study showing
> that
> > > people who lived in the Caucasus Mountains lived
> > > longer because they ate yogart.  Actually, it is
> > > glacial milk. not background radiation.
> > >
> > > See
> > >
> http://www.lifebuildingminerals.com/longevity.htm
> > >
> > > As noted in the BEIR V, BEIR VII, UNSCEAR and
> other
> > > reports, biological response from low dose,
> low-dose
> > > rates differ from those of high dose rate
> exposures.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Maury Siskel <maurysis at ev1.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Many Radsafe readers would find the linked
> article
> > > in Science an
> > > > intriguing account. But I agree that when you
> come
> > > to the section
> > > > about "The Radiation Paradox", your ears will
> > > stand up -- Dog's did
> > > > when I read it to him. <g> Cheers, Maury&Dog
> > > >
> > > > ====================
> > > > Muckerheide, James wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > >
> > > > > An essay on 'medical geology' in the current
> > > > Science magazine includes
> > > > > the following section. The article is at:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/309/5736/883
> > > >
> > > > . . .
> > > > >
> > > > > The most interesting feature in all these
> cases
> > > is
> > > > that the people
> > > > > living in these HBRAs do not appear to
> suffer
> > > any
> > > > adverse health
> > > > > effects as a result of their high exposures
> to
> > > > radiation. On the
> > > > > contrary, in some cases the individuals
> living
> > > in
> > > > these HBRAs appear
> > > > > to be even healthier and to live longer than
> > > those
> > > > living in control
> > > > > areas that are not classified as HBRAs.
> These
> > > > phenomena pose many
> > > > > intriguing questions for medical geologists.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > +++++++++++++++++++
> > > "Every now and then a man's mind is stretched by
> a
> > > new idea and never shrinks back to its original
> > > proportion." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
> > >
> > > -- John
> > > John Jacobus, MS
> > > Certified Health Physicist
> > > e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > +++++++++++++++++++
> > "Every now and then a man's mind is stretched by a
> new idea and never
> > shrinks back to its original proportion." --
> Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
> > 
> > -- John
> > John Jacobus, MS
> > Certified Health Physicist
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+++++++++++++++++++
"Every now and then a man's mind is stretched by a new idea and never shrinks back to its original proportion." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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