[ RadSafe ] ARTICLE: North American First RespondersLack Radiation Train...
O.Bruce Bugg
obbugg at gsp.net
Mon Nov 7 16:35:54 CST 2005
>>How many chemical companies provide free training on chemical hazards
>>for first responders? <<
A whole bunch do. Whether as individual members of their community, or
through TransCAER or Responsible Care programs, the U.S. Chemical
industry provides lots of free training to first responders. Rohm & Haas
and DuPont both have railcar leak simulators. Amoco has (or had)
"sidekick" trailers that could roll themselves over and re-right
themselves to teach first responders how to deal with rolled gasoline
and propane tank trucks. They might have had a railcar, too.
Many of the training courses I or colleagues attended were at no cost to
the response agency. Many responders, even in what is now the suburbs,
but used to be the "country," are volunteers; they would get little or
no training otherwise.
In the case of fixed facilities, this is also in their own interest,
since many of these responders might help save a facility should a fire
or accident occur, or help supplement their own industrial response
teams.
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Capt. Bruce Bugg
Georgia Department of Public Safety
Motor Carrier Compliance Division
P.O. Box 1456
Atlanta , GA 30371-1456
Phone: 404.624.7211 or 7210
Fax: 404.624.7295
e-mail: obbugg(at)gsp.net [replace "(at)" with "@"]
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From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of mpatterson at canberra.com
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 14:26
To: Edwards, Richard W
Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl; radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl
Subject: Spam:RE: [ RadSafe ] ARTICLE: North American First
RespondersLack Radiation Train...
Richard,
Just my personal observations and thoughts. You bring up many important
issues.
Hmm. The old saying " You get what you pay for comes to mind."
Volunteer community service is noble but I wonder how many other
professionals feel compelled to provide detailed, customized training
courses or other services for free.
How many chemistry professionals provide free, customized, comprehensive
training courses for the fire and police departments? for Schools? for
Hospitals?
How many chemical companies provide free training on chemical hazards
for first responders?
How many mechanics provide free training courses on how to fix police
cars or fire trucks?
How many vehicle manufacturers provide free cars or trucks or
ambulances?
Free service on them?
How many doctors and nurses provide free emergency training for EMTs?
How many lawyers provide free legal service to FD, PD, hospitals etc?
All of these things would be nice community services, but that is not
generally how things seem to work in our country. If someone thinks
something is important then they are willing to pay for it. I am sure
that many people on the list do participate in some type of community
service but most work full-time and have families and some are even
pursuing additional education for their own jobs. This means that
there is a limit on the time they have to spare for volunteering and
there are many noble causes vying for that time.
-Sincerely,
Melissa Patterson
"Edwards, Richard W" <richard.w.edwards at boeing.com> Sent by:
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11/07/2005 11:02 AM
To: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
cc:
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] ARTICLE: North American First
Responders Lack Radiation
Train...
Having been involved with supporting emergency response and training
emergency responders for a number of years, the last 15 in western
Washington State (an area covered by the program referenced by Al
Conklin), I have a number of comments regarding this issue.
(1) Training is merely one element of a response program. Adequate
operational protocols, equipment, and specialized support are also
necessary elements. Until those elements are developed, training must be
too general to enable adequate response in the real world.
(2) Emergencies with sources of radiation involved are extremely rare
for most response agencies. Emergency services have a reasonable
tendency to focus training (as well as development of operational
protocols and acquisition of resources) to those areas they view to be
most likely to occur...or to those areas that someone else will pay for.
(3) Outreach on the part of the radiation safety community is suboptimal
(okay...it's abysmal). In my experience, the number of radiation safety
professionals that are willing to learn enough about emergency services
to be able to be effective in working with them to upgrade operational
protocols, equipment, and training is a tiny fraction of our community.
In many ways, radiation safety professionals do more to inhibit the
improvement of radiation emergency response capabilities by mystifying
radiation, amplifying the risks of radiation exposures without
comparison to other risks emergency responders accept on a daily basis,
suggesting only radiation specialists are capable of guiding
decision-making during radation emergencies, and developing parallel (or
skewed!) response methods rather than adapting the responders' existing
response methods to radiation response needs.
(4) Existing, capable resources supporting radiation emergency response
is not well advertised or easily accessed. Typically, these are state
level capabilities that are not (or not understood to be) directly
accessible to the first in responder.
For all these reasons, the maturity of emergency services in radiation
emergency response spreads clear across the spectrum. If you look to the
response to other hazardous materials, you will see many of the same
issues, although not necessarily to the degree seen in radiation
emergency response.
So my question to you is what are you doing about it in your community?
Richard W. Edwards
Boeing Radiation Health Protection
206 544-5888
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