AW: [ RadSafe ] Chernobyl's Reduced Impact

Muckerheide, James jimm at WPI.EDU
Thu Sep 15 10:40:25 CDT 2005


This is an excellent point Dr. Fascius!  I would add, most of the 479 excess
cancer deaths were in people exposed to estimated doses above 2 Sv!  

And of course, this is from a virtually instantaneous flash of very high
energy mixed gamma-neutron field radiation.  As correctly stated by an RERF
researcher, Dale Preston, at the IAEA Seville Conference in 1997, "these
dose-response estimates only apply to predicting the effects of persons
exposed to atomic bomb direct radiation."  

Regards, Jim Muckerheide
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
> Behalf Of Rainer.Facius at dlr.de
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:26 AM
> To: maurysis at ev1.net
> Cc: michael.g.stabin at Vanderbilt.Edu; radsafe at radlab.nl
> Subject: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] Chernobyl's Reduced Impact
> 
> Maury:
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for providing another example of the deeply routed
> misconceptions regarding (ionizing) radiation.
> 
> 
> 
> "But radiation? sure everybody knows about that -- the invisible rays that
> killed masses
> 
> of people from the atom bombs in Japan ...."
> 
> 
> 
> Recently I had to rebut a manuscript promoted by trade unions of air crew
> talking about the well known effects of radiation as exemplified in the
> "Strahlenhölle" (radiation hell) of Hiroshima. The fact is that as
> 'little' as 5% and certainly less than 15% of the about 200000 fatalities
> fell victim to the genuine radiobiological early effects of acute high
> radiation doses, i.e., essentially the hematopoietic syndrome. The vast
> majority died from the classic effects of conventional bombs, i.e.,
> thermodynamic shock waves (pressure and heat blast), fire, trauma from
> debris of tumbling buildings. In addition to the acute effects, the most
> recent numbers concerning the late effects from the 'low' dose ATB
> exposures (as taken from a recent news paper article) are: In a survivor
> cohort of about 87000 a total of 10127 cancer deaths have been observed
> since 1950 up to now. About 479 (fourhundredseventynine) of these 10127
> deaths are in excess of the expected natural cancer mortality and can be
> ascribed with some reason to the cancerogenic action of acute irradiation
> - above say 200 mSv.
> 
> 
> 
> So much for the MASSES that everybody KNOWS to have been killed by
> radiation.
> 
> 
> 
> If you compare these numbers with the - in Germany alone - about 140000
> deaths among perhaps 4000000 traffic casualties since 1950 you cannot help
> but wonder and/or weep.
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards, Rainer
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> Von: Maury Siskel [mailto:maurysis at ev1.net]
> Gesendet: Mi 14.09.2005 23:31
> An: Facius, Rainer
> Cc: crispy_bird at yahoo.com; michael.g.stabin at Vanderbilt.Edu;
> radsafe at radlab.nl
> Betreff: Re: AW: [ RadSafe ] Chernobyl's Reduced Impact
> 
> 
> 
> Please forgive the anecdotal intrusion, <...>
> 
>  But radiation?
> sure everybody knows about that -- the invisible rays that killed masses
> of people from the atom bombs in Japan and that might kill us by a
> terrorist dirty bomb
> 
> <...>
> 
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