[ RadSafe ] Re: Reasoning the Unreasonables (frm:Chernobyl's Reduced Impact)
Dimiter Popoff
didi at tgi-sci.com
Fri Sep 16 23:38:23 CDT 2005
Hey. Howard,
I am as optimistic as one can get - and I am certainly not what you would call green...
I do believe that by 2100 we will have the science to colonise the galaxy, that's
what my message was really meant to say...
Dimiter
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> -------Original Message-------
> From: howard long <hflong at pacbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: Reasoning the Unreasonables (frm:Chernobyl's Reduced Impact)
> Sent: Sep 17 '05 06:44
>
> I predict that in 2100 AD there will be > 20 B people on earth
>
> with cleaner air, more energy (largely nuclear) and better,
>
> more natural forestry management
>
> (which I have done on my few acres of indigenous oak forest).
>
>
> Like Edward Teller, I am an optomist,
>
> so have incentive to make things better,
>
> unlike Green pessimists Jim and Dimiter, below.
>
>
> Best Wishes, Howard Long
>
> _DIMITER POPOFF <DIDI at TGI-SCI.COM>_ wrote:No doubt the planet is
> overpopulated. Reduction of the population is one of the
> possible outcomes of this - which will lead to lowering the pressure for
> ingenuity and thus slow down progress and eventually lead to decline of
> the human civilization.
> The only other possible outcome I can think of is colonization of new
> worlds...
> The sooner we learn how to do it, the better (too bad there are no
> more Americas on Earth to be discovered :). And soon may mean
> really soon, how long will it take us to learn how to affect our bodies at
> a DNA level and prolong lifespan dramatically.
> Thus everything which is in the way of progress is an enemy of our race,
> most of the "everything" being humans....
>
> Dimiter
>
> (who forgot for a while that he is not Hari Seldon and wrote the above
> ...:-)
>
>
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>
> > -------Original Message-------
> > From: James Salsman
> > Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re: Reasoning the Unreasonables (frm:Chernobyl's
> Reduced Impact)
> > Sent: Sep 16 '05 02:26
> >
> > Howard Long, M.D., wrote:
> >
> > > I, too admire the diving accomplishments of Costeau.
> > > Nevertheless, when I saw him affirm "The only way to restore nature is
> to
> > > get rid of 300,000 human beings a day" (or words very close), it
> conflicted
> > > with my main goal in life, and perhaps yours.
> > >
> > > You will agree that statement is Green extremism?
> >
> > Not if the negative population growth is almost entirely
> > driven by reductions in the birth rate from access to birth
> > control and economic incentives limiting family size. That
> > has been the status quo in Europe, the U.S., Japan, and
> > China for a while now, so I don't see how it can be
> > considered extreme.
> >
> > The more M.D.s we have so fanatical about hormesis that they
> > ignore the effects of chemical toxicant accumulation -- and
> > refuse to quantify the exposure levels that they find
> > acceptable -- the sooner we can get the birth rate down due
> > to increases in miscarriage.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > James
> >
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