[ RadSafe ] Re: Reasoning the Unreasonables (frm:Chernobyl's Reduced Impact)

Dimiter Popoff didi at tgi-sci.com
Fri Sep 16 23:38:23 CDT 2005


Hey. Howard,
I am as optimistic as one can get - and I am certainly not what you would call green...
I do believe that by 2100 we will have the science to colonise the galaxy, that's
what my message was really meant to say...

Dimiter

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>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: howard long <hflong at pacbell.net>
>  Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: Reasoning the Unreasonables (frm:Chernobyl's Reduced Impact)
>  Sent: Sep 17 '05 06:44
>  
>  I predict that in 2100 AD there will be > 20 B people on earth
>  
>  with cleaner air, more energy (largely nuclear) and better,
>  
>  more natural forestry management
>  
>  (which I have done on my few acres of indigenous oak forest).
>  
>  
>  Like Edward Teller, I am an optomist,
>  
>  so have incentive to make things better,
>  
>  unlike Green pessimists Jim and Dimiter, below.
>  
>  
>  Best Wishes, Howard Long
>  
>  _DIMITER POPOFF <DIDI at TGI-SCI.COM>_ wrote:No doubt the planet is
>  overpopulated. Reduction of the population is one of the
>  possible outcomes of this - which will lead to lowering the pressure for
>  ingenuity and thus slow down progress and eventually lead to decline of
>  the human civilization.
>  The only other possible outcome I can think of is colonization of new
>  worlds...
>  The sooner we learn how to do it, the better (too bad there are no
>  more Americas on Earth to be discovered :). And soon may mean
>  really soon, how long will it take us to learn how to affect our bodies at
>  a DNA level and prolong lifespan dramatically.
>  Thus everything which is in the way of progress is an enemy of our race,
>  most of the "everything" being humans....
>  
>  Dimiter
>  
>  (who forgot for a while that he is not Hari Seldon and wrote the above
>  ...:-)
>  
>  
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>  
>  > -------Original Message-------
>  > From: James Salsman
>  > Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re: Reasoning the Unreasonables (frm:Chernobyl's
>  Reduced Impact)
>  > Sent: Sep 16 '05 02:26
>  >
>  > Howard Long, M.D., wrote:
>  >
>  > > I, too admire the diving accomplishments of Costeau.
>  > > Nevertheless, when I saw him affirm "The only way to restore nature is
>  to
>  > > get rid of 300,000 human beings a day" (or words very close), it
>  conflicted
>  > > with my main goal in life, and perhaps yours.
>  > >
>  > > You will agree that statement is Green extremism?
>  >
>  > Not if the negative population growth is almost entirely
>  > driven by reductions in the birth rate from access to birth
>  > control and economic incentives limiting family size. That
>  > has been the status quo in Europe, the U.S., Japan, and
>  > China for a while now, so I don't see how it can be
>  > considered extreme.
>  >
>  > The more M.D.s we have so fanatical about hormesis that they
>  > ignore the effects of chemical toxicant accumulation -- and
>  > refuse to quantify the exposure levels that they find
>  > acceptable -- the sooner we can get the birth rate down due
>  > to increases in miscarriage.
>  >
>  > Sincerely,
>  > James
>  >



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