[ RadSafe ] Re:"State of Fear"

[Marcel Schouwenburg]

Dear RadSafers,

Although the current discussion/thread ("State of Fear") is interesting 
I would like to ask you to stay on the topic of RadSafe.

With kind regards,

Marcel Schouwenburg
Head Training Centre Delft / RadSafe moderator & listowner
National Centre for Radiation Protection (Dutch abbr. NCSV)

Faculty of Applied Sciences / Reactor Institute Delft
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jjcohen at prodigy.net wrote:

>Historical evidence indicates that over past centuries and millennia the
>climate has been cyclical in nature and the Earth has experienced
>alternating periods of extreme cold (ice ages), and heat. So, how can we
>distinguish whether several years of increasing cold or heat are cataclysmic
>in nature, or simply a periodic up or down cycle -- temporary in nature and
>not worth worrying about-- unless  , of course one is seeking government
>funding to study the matter further.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Dimiter Popoff" <didi at tgi-sci.com>
>To: "Colette Tremblay" <colette.tremblay at ssp.ulaval.ca>; <radsafe at radlab.nl>
>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:14 AM
>Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re:"State of Fear"
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>>> Unfortunately,  the data do show global warming.
>>>      
>>>
>>We all know this has been repeated many times by the media.
>>
>>Local variations over an entire continent (and more, it extends
>>from Europe into Asia) are not that local to my understanding.
>>
>>However, if you have worked with some real data to state
>>this I am in no position to argue against what you say, I'll
>>just accept it (at least until next winter....:-).
>>
>>Dimiter
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>>Dimiter Popoff               Transgalactic Instruments
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>>http://www.tgi-sci.com
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>>> -------Original Message-------
>>> From: Colette Tremblay <colette.tremblay at ssp.ulaval.ca>
>>> Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] Re:"State of Fear"
>>> Sent: Feb 20 '06 18:04
>>>
>>> Local variations do and will always exist for any
>>> system so complex as the Earth's climate. To
>>> understand what is going on, we need to look at
>>> data collected around the world. Unfortunately,
>>> the data do show global warming. Some models for
>>> global warming predict the weakening of the Gulf
>>> Stream, thus colder temperatures for Western
>>> Europe. Maybe that's what you are experimenting?
>>>
>>> Colette
>>>
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl]On
>>>      
>>>
>Behalf
>  
>
>>> >Of Dimiter Popoff
>>> >Sent: February 20, 2006 7:08 AM
>>> >To: radsafe at radlab.nl
>>> >Subject: [ RadSafe ] Re:"State of Fear"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Actually the temperature data I have access to indicates cooling
>>> >rather than warming. 3 out of last 4 years we had no summer
>>> >at all - temperatures were way lower than average, this winter
>>> >we had deeply buried waterpipes freeze for the first time in their
>>> >20 years existance etc...
>>> >I really do not buy into all the global warming talk, however
>>>      
>>>
>aggressive
>  
>
>>> >the media are about it. Whether it is just a mistake or a lie
>>> >or a mixture of both I do not know, what I do know is that
>>> >my winter energy consumption is rising measurably while
>>> >the thermostat here keeps the temperature with about a 0.1 C
>>> >precision year after year... whatever the CO2 concentration may
>>> >have been.
>>> >
>>> >Dimiter
>>> >
>>> >------------------------------------------------------
>>> >Dimiter Popoff               Transgalactic Instruments
>>> >
>>> >http://www.tgi-sci.com
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Colette Tremblay
>>> Agente de radioprotection
>>> Universitй Laval
>>> Tйlйphone : (418) 656-2131 poste 2893
>>> Tйlйcopie : (418) 656-5617
>>> courriel : colette.tremblay at ssp.ulaval.ca
>>> Site Web :  www.ssp.ulaval.ca/sgc/radioprotection
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