AW: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] Cameron's refutation of "Alara Does Work" - Preemployment physicals

[John Jacobus]

Rainer,
If you accept that the data may have been biased, why
do you not just move on to more relevant studies? 
Science is not based on only one study.  It is a body
of work that establishes proof.

--- Rainer.Facius at dlr.de wrote:

> Thank you John, 
> 
> these copies indeed prove your claim that in the
> Standard Form 93, REPORT OF MEDICAL HISTORY (rev.
> Oct. 1974), at least until 1994, i.e., for a
> substantial part of the NSYW study, the question as
> to a family history of cancer was included. Of
> course, as Robert Gunter has remarked, if this had
> led automatically to an exclusion of an applicant,
> then a rather small fraction of the population would
> have qualified. 
> 
> So the major question remaining is, to what extent a
> check in this box precluded an applicant to become a
> nuclear worker in the shipyards. I will try to find
> out what the Matanoski report has to say about that.
> 
> Until then best regards, Rainer (who will be off the
> office until the beginning of August)
> 
> Dr. Rainer Facius
> German Aerospace Center
> Institute of Aerospace Medicine
> Linder Hoehe
> 51147 Koeln
> GERMANY
> Voice: +49 2203 601 3147 or 3150
> FAX:   +49 2203 61970
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: John Jacobus [mailto:crispy_bird at yahoo.com] 
> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Juli 2006 15:19
> An: Facius, Rainer; rjgunter at chpconsultants.com;
> radsafe at radlab.nl
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [ RadSafe ] Cameron's
> refutation of "Alara Does Work" - Preemployment
> physicals
> 
> Rainer,
> While I do feel it is really worth my time
> continuing with this discussion, I would like you to
> provide you with copies of MY old radiation
> physicals.  They show the overprint regarding family
> history of cancer, anemia, and cataracts.  I found
> them while going through my old militray medical
> records for information on hearing test.
> 
> If they are not attached, let me know and I will
> send them to you directly.
> 
> Have a good weekend.
> 
> --- John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Rainer,
> > As I have said, I was involved with oversight of
> the medical exams.  
> > There were other Navy officers also involved, and
> their experiences 
> > may have been different from mine.  Maybe the
> number of workers not 
> > accepted for radiation work was not significant.
> > Nevertheless, I would think that even the
> suggestion of selection bias 
> > that was not corrected would call into question
> the original data set.
> > 
> > If you wish to consider my concerns as being
> valid, that is up to you.
> > 
> > --- Rainer.Facius at dlr.de wrote:
> > 
> > >

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-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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