[ RadSafe ] Will Robert Cherry and John Johnson face the truth about DU?

Bob Cherry bobcherry at cox.net
Wed Mar 1 16:53:53 CST 2006


Considering that you did not retract the accusation of cowardice you made to
me, a combat officer and experienced scientist, even though I gave you the
chance to do so, you must be either daring or a fool.

I think you are a fool. 

You are not worthy of my further attention unless you persist in your
attacks on my integrity, at which time I will consider legal action for

Bob C

-----Original Message-----
From: James Salsman [mailto:james at readsay.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:31 PM
To: bobcherry at cox.net
Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Will Robert Cherry and John Johnson face the truth
about DU?

Dear Bob:

If you can convince the Health Physics Society to host an open,
public debate on this issue, I will share my profound concerns
about the personal courage and professional responsibility of
those who have been involved with this issue, including yourself,
in detail, in person.

James Salsman

bobcherry at cox.net wrote:

> You know, Jimmy, you are the first person ever  to tell me that I was
cowardly. Would you care to tell me that in person?
> Bob C
>>From: James Salsman <james at bovik.org>
>>Date: 2006/03/01 Wed PM 03:59:51 EST
>>To: radsafe at radlab.nl
>>CC: du-list at yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [ RadSafe ] Will Robert Cherry and John Johnson face the truth
>>	about DU?
>>Like Dan Fahey and Roger Helbig, I abhor misinformation from
>>depleted uranium munitions opponents.  However, those responsible
>>for the atrocity of pyrophoric depleted uranium munitions and
>>the affect they have had on the men and women serving in the
>>United States' armed forces is nothing short of gross negligence.
>>I challenge those participating on this list to step forward:
>>A.  Will Robert Cherry and John R. Johnson join me in calling
>>for the immediate testing of uranium munitions combustion
>>products for soluble uranyl ion (e.g., UO3(g) vapor) such as
>>has been empirically detected by Salbu et al.[1]?
>>B.  Will Robert Cherry and John R. Johnson join me in asking
>>Margaret A. K. Ryan, Director of the DoD Birth and Infant
>>Health Registry, to release the trend information regarding
>>the congenital malformation rates among the children of
>>combat-deployed 1991 Gulf War veterans, which in 2000 were
>>already about two and three times the average for males and
>>females, respectively[2]?
>>C.  Will Robert Cherry and John R. Johnson join me in calling
>>for immediate chromosome aberration analysis[3] of several
>>species of mammals exposed to depleted uranium combustion
>>product inhalation in order to empirically judge the genotoxic
>>effects of uranium combustion product inhalation poisoning[4-9]?
>>What does it say about their regard for the men and women
>>serving in the United States armed forces that these so-called
>>professionals and their colleagues have not already been
>>asking these questions?  Are they so cowardly that they feel
>>it more important to depend on a poison with as-yet-unknown
>>long-term effects than to take personal responsibility for
>>their actions?  I see no evidence to the contrary.  It is a
>>shame that I, a private citizen with no more interest in the
>>matter than my daughter's future reproductive health, must
>>call them to account.
>>James Salsman
>>[1] Salbu, B.; Janssens, K.; Lind, O.C.; Proost, K.; Gijsels, L., 
>>Danesic, P.R. (2005) "Oxidation states of uranium in depleted uranium 
>>particles from Kuwait." Journal of Environmental Radioactivity, 78, 
>>125?135: http://www.bovik.org/du/Salbu-uranyl-detected.pdf Abstract: 
>>"Environmental or health impact assessments for ... DU munitions should 
>>... take into account the presence of respiratory UO3...."
>>[2] Kang H, Magee C, Mahan C, Lee K, Murphy F, Jackson L, Matanoski G. 
>>(2001) "Pregnancy outcomes among U.S. Gulf War veterans: a 
>>population-based survey of 30,000 veterans." Annals of Epidemiology, 
>>vol. 11, pp. 504-11: 
>>Abstract: "Both men and women deployed to the Gulf theater reported 
>>significant excesses of birth defects among their liveborn infants. 
>>These excess rates also extended to the subset of 'moderate to severe' 
>>birth defects [males: OR= 1.78 (CI = 1.19-2.66); females: OR = 2.80 (CI 
>>= 1.26-6.25)]."
>>[3] Schröder, H.; A. Heimers; R. Frentzel-Beyme; A. Schott; W. Hoffmann 
>>(2003) "Chromosome aberration analysis in peripheral lymphocytes of Gulf 
>>war and Balkans war veterans," Radiation Protection Dosimetry, vol. 103, 
>>pp. 211-220: http://www.bovik.org/du/chromosome-abberations.pdf 
>>Abstract: "there was a statistically significant increase in the 
>>frequency of dicentric chromosomes (dic) and centric ring chromosomes 
>>(cR) in the veterans. group...."
>>[4] Arfsten, D.P.; K.R. Still; G.D. Ritchie (2001) "A review of the 
>>effects of uranium and depleted uranium exposure on reproduction and 
>>fetal development," Toxicology and Industrial Health, vol. 17, pp. 
>>180-91: http://www.bovik.org/du/reproduction-review-2001.pdf Summary 
>>contains: "A number of studies have shown that natural uranium is a 
>>reproductive toxicant...."
>>[5] Hindin, R.; D. Brugge; B. Panikkar (2005) "Teratogenicity of 
>>depleted uranium aerosols: A review from an epidemiological 
>>perspective," Environmental Health, vol. 4, pp. 17: 
>>http://www.ehjournal.net/content/4/1/17 "Conclusion: In aggregate the 
>>human epidemiological evidence is consistent with increased risk of 
>>birth defects in offspring of persons exposed to DU."
>>[6] Domingo, J.L. (2001) "Reproductive and developmental toxicity of 
>>natural and depleted uranium: a review," Reproductive Toxicology, vol. 
>>15, pp. 603-9. Abstract: "Decreased fertility, embryo/fetal toxicity 
>>including teratogenicity, and reduced growth of the offspring have been 
>>observed following uranium exposure at different gestation periods."
>>[7] Durakovic A. (1999) "Medical effects of internal contamination with 
>>uranium," Croatian Medical Journal, vol. 40, pp. 49-66: 
>>http://www.bovik.org/du/asaf_99.htm Abstract: "well documented evidence 
>>of reproductive and developmental toxicity...."
>>[8] McDiarmid, M.A., et al. (2006) "Biological monitoring and 
>>surveillance results of Gulf War I veterans exposed to depleted 
>>uranium," International Archives of Occupational and Environmental 
>>Health, vol. 79, pp. 11-21. Abstract: "genotoxicity measures continue to 
>>show subtle, mixed results...."
>>[9] Miller, A.C.; M. Stewart; K. Brooks; L. Shi; N. Page (2003) 
>>"Depleted uranium-catalyzed oxidative DNA damage: absence of significant 
>>alpha particle decay," Journal of Inorganic Biochemistry, vol. 91, pp. 
>>246-252: http://www.bovik.org/du/Miller-DNA-damage.pdf Abstract: 
>>"chemical generation of hydroxyl radicals by depleted uranium in vitro 
>>exceeds radiolytic generation by one million-fold...."
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