[ RadSafe ] [du-list] another silly paper - now translated even in partuguese - quoting leuren moret

Roger Helbig rhelbig at california.com
Tue Mar 7 04:55:36 CST 2006

Notice the creative approach of Davey Garland, Thunderelf in defending Leuren Moret and Doug Rokke, the two arch-charlatans of the anti-DU movement .. guess blatant lies and scientific mumbo jumbo are OK as long as they further the goals of the movement!  Anyone in UK know Mr Garland up close and personal?  He is one of the main posters to this anti-DU list - quick to parrot anything that comes out, true or false!

--- davey garland <thunderelf at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> To: du-list at yahoogroups.com
> From: davey garland <thunderelf at yahoo.co.uk>
> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 08:12:35 +0000 (GMT)
> Subject: Re: [du-list] another silly paper - now
> translated even in partuguese - quoting leuren moret
> Well it just goes to show, that we do have amongst
> our  numbers real activists who don't need grants and
> wages  to be instructed to get this issue out to the wider
> world. Hats off to leuren and doug for pushing the
> boundaries, and not holding on to data that sadly
> does  seem be hogged by some folk. I think possibly Bruno,
> what you may not grasp, is that most people have the
> intellegence to read between the lines, and do
> further  digging into DU, deciding for themselves which is
> "over-elaboration" and what isn't. Sometimes you
> have  to be dramatic and innovative to break through the
> indifference and blindness that the public seems to
> have on occasions. Its interesting here up at this
> university, that many have become alerted to DU
> through these independents and rabble rousers, they
> might not always agree with some of the  science, or
> even some of the facts, but they realise their value
> and importance to putting this issue on the top of
> the  agenda, and taking on those who would wish to
> silence them. 
> ...............moderator omitted a personal attack
> in this section. (It does the DU movement no benefit
> to launch personal attacks. cl)
> Davey
> anti-DU independent rabble rouser and 'grocers son' 
> --- bruno vitale <vitalebrulists at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> dear d.u. friends,
>   another silly paper quoting leuren moret! (now
> translated even in portuguese - and the competence
> of 
> the brasilian translators can be judged by the fact
> the 'commercial reactors' using enriched uranium is
> translated into 'commercial planes')
>   just a taste:
>   "I'm very indebted to Leuren Moret for the data
> discussed throughohis article and below. Leuren is
> an
> independent scientist and internationally recognized
> expert on radiation, DU and public health. She's
> done
> extensive research on the environmental and public
> health effects of low level radiation from
> atmospheric
> testing fallout, nuclear power plants and DU weapons
> radiation in 42 countries, has written detailed
> reports and articles on her important findings,
> given
> testimony on the harmful affects of DU poisoning and
> is an outspoken critic of DU use. In an article she
> authored in July, 2004 she wrote: "The use of
> depleted
> uranium weaponry by the United States, defying all
> international treaties, will slowly annihilate all
> species on earth including the human species, and
> yet
> this country continues to do so with full knowledge
> of
> its destructive potential."
>   Leuren's work has revealed some shocking facts.
> Since the U.S. military first used DU weapons in the
> 1991 Gulf War, it has released the radioactive
> atomicity equivalent of 400,000 Nagasaki nuclear
> bombs
> into the global atmosphere (that's no misprint)
> causing permanent contamination with a half-life of
> 4.5 billion years. Furthermore, that DU radiation is
> 10 times the amount released by all atmospheric
> testing which in total equaled 40,000 Hiroshima
> bombs
> (again, no misprint). The 2 atom bombs used against
> the Japanese killed a likely 300,000 or more people
> from the initial blasts and subsequent radiation and
> chemical poisoning deaths."
>   and:
>   "these weapons were effectively banned by common
> consent (and common sense) and never used (except
> for
> one time in the 1973 Yom Kippur war)"
>   how long will this silly rokke-moret-... saga go
> on?
> will not someone try, and  stop it somehow (for
> instance, by writing to the reviews that published
> the
> english and portuguese versions?); if possible, not
> 'someone' (i have already tried several times with
> no
> success, and  other friends have tried) but 'a
> serious
> anti-d.u. organisation' like CADU et al, that - i
> think - cannot continue being silent and indirectly
> responsible
>   friendly,
>   bruno vitale, geneva 

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