AW: [ RadSafe ] Fears promoted by anti-nuclear Greens

John R Johnson idias at interchange.ubc.ca
Mon Mar 13 15:26:28 CST 2006


John et al

LNT is more than "an instrument for radiation protection". We thought it was
neccessary when we wrote NCRP Report No. 121.
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-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl]On
Behalf Of John Jacobus
Sent: March 13, 2006 12:16 PM
To: Rainer.Facius at dlr.de; tom.mohaupt at wright.edu; maurysis at ev1.net
Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: Re: AW: [ RadSafe ] Fears promoted by anti-nuclear Greens


Rainer,
Both you and Tom are correct.  The BEIR and ICRP
acknowledge that research shows the biology is more
complicated than the LNT.  Nevertheless, the LNT was
and still is an instrument for radiation protection.

However, I do not think that groups like the ICRP and
BEIR can be held responsible for the misuse of the
data by those with an anti-nuclear agenda.  I do not
believe there are measurable risks below 100 mSv, and
I am sure that many of the members of the ICRP and
BEIR would agree.

--- Rainer.Facius at dlr.de wrote:

> Tom:
>
> Although you may be right regarding the parenthood
> of the monster, presently it is thriving and
> prospering mainly due to the nurture granted by the
> BEIR committees. If I remember correctly, the draft
> for the upcoming ICRP recommendations tried to spell
> out and discourage some of the most extreme abuses
> of the LNT postulate - which unfortunately they
> continue to uphold as a hypothesis reflecting
> radiobiological reality instead of a conceptual tool
> necessary for radiation protection practices.
>
> Best regards, Rainer
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im Auftrag von
> Tom Mohaupt
> Gesendet: Montag, 13. März 2006 15:20
> An: Maury Siskel
> Cc: RadiatSafety
> Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fears promoted by
> anti-nuclear Greens
>
> Why aren't the ICRP and NCRP addressing these
> exaggeration issues? I told Roger Clark of the ICRP
> a few years back at an HPS meeting that "it isn't
> the use of the LNT hypothesis that worries me, it's
> the abuse".
> The system is wrought with people who hyper-inflate
> the radiation hazard to fit agenda. The LNT is being
> outright abused on many issues. My neighbor recently
> told me that she refused to have x-rays because they
> are dangerous. If the ICRP and NCRP continue to
> purvey the LNT then they should be at the forefront
> of preventing its abuse. At the very least they
> should support us in our effort to address abuse as
> it arises.
> There are two ways for an idea to become a societal
> paradigm: it's the truth or it's repeated so often
> that people believe it to be the truth.
> That is what we're seeing - a barrage of clatter
> inculcating the message into people's heads. Once
> it's there, the truth may become moot. The ICRP and
> NCRP created the monster, they should at least help
> corral it.
> Tom
>
> Maury Siskel wrote:
>
> > Can some Radsafers in Australia try to right this
> wrong? Below is just
> > a small sample of the anguish being imposed
> wrongfully on these
> > townsfolk without any supporting data? This is a
> gross and unnecessary
> > injustice. At worst, even if the fancied cancer
> claims were correct,
> > these folks surely should have their fears
> alleviated by some facts
> > about DU, about the former fictional head of the
> imaginary Depleted
> > Uranium Project, and about an honest assessment of
> the possible
> > dangers to citizens of Lancelin and surrounding
> areas. This horse dung
> > being dumped on Lancelin by Green Left Weekly is
> sick!
> >
> > Lancelin deserves better.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Maury&Dog (maurysis at ev1.net)
> > ===================
> >
> > ".... Dr Doug Rokke, former head of the Pentagon's
> Depleted Uranium
> > Project, visited Lancelin in July 2003 and told
> local activists that
> > it was 100% likely that DU munitions either had
> already been used on
> > the weapons range, or would be. ..."
> >
> >
> http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2006/660/660p12.htm
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> --
> Thomas Mohaupt, M.S., CHP
> Radiation Safety Officer
> Wright State University
> 937-775-2169
> tom.mohaupt at wright.edu
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"Those who corrupt the public mind are just as evil as those who steal from
the public purse."
Adlai Stevenson

-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
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