[ RadSafe ] RADSAFE as of today officially closed

Philippe Duport phduport at sympatico.ca
Sun Apr 1 09:55:07 CDT 2007

I understand your sentiments and decision.  I enjoyed RADSAFE messages 
relevant to radiation protection, much less the more personal or politically 
tainted ones.

Please include my in new RADIANT list.

Many thanks again and best regards

Philippe Duport

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Radiant" <radiation at noos.fr>
To: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 8:08 AM
Subject: [ RadSafe ] RADSAFE as of today officially closed

> Dear RadSaferS
> After fifteen years, RadSafe, an international e-mail list devoted to the 
> topic of radiation protection (Health Physics) has decided to close down 
> definitively for the following reasons:
> 1. The content of the messages circulating has reached during 2007 a 
> historical low as to relevance for radiation protection (11.54%)
> 2. messages have been submitted only by a few (less than 1% of the 
> subscribers have generated over 90% of the messages)
> 3. these subscribers are including in their replies the full thread of 
> previous messages, so their name appears with a frequency, that has 
> absolutely no relation with the relevance their contributions represent 
> for a discussion on radiation protection issues, thus heavily polluting 
> the Archive.
> 4. insults, flames and heavy breathing have become quite frequent; these 
> messages are now recorded in the Archives on a HD-DVD (verba volant, 
> scripta manent), they will not be destroyed as they might be useful for 
> future sociological studies as to behavioural patterns of a specialized 
> community during 15 years at the end of the XXth and beginning of the 
> XXIth century of our era.
> 5. These ‘frequent’ archive polluters reply mostly without thinking, not 
> taking into account (or intentionally?) that there is a community of about 
> 3000 RadSaferS out there. The game seems to be “Why don’t you? Yes but …”, 
> first you ask for help with a problem then, you shoot down every possible 
> suggestion….. Some are suffering of an acute form of RadSafe neurosis. The 
> good practice of trying to place oneself somehow in the role of the 
> recipient in order to improve message clarity has almost completely been 
> abandoned.
> Thanks go to all those, who have submitted questions and provided answers 
> which have helped improving common understanding and have provided 
> scientific / technical responses to key issues.
> No thanks go to Archive polluters and those who have expressed opinions we 
> would qualify of ‘stalinistic-talibanistic’ nature. (science is about 
> resolving doubts and improving knowledge, not about expressing absolute 
> certainties). They have made RadSafe useless and have thus definitively 
> killed it.
> We intend to open a new mail-server soon, called the RADIANT. This will 
> include the full RadSafe list (you need to confirm your interest though) 
> excluding of course the names of those who have harmed RadSafe.
> With Regrets (sit tibi terra levis),
> The RadSafe Administration
> 2007-04-01
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