[ RadSafe ] RE: birth defects in Basrah

[John R Johnson]

Steven and other Rasdsaers

I must ask the question again!

What is the difference between DU and U-Nat? We have many U-Nat studies that 
don't show the effects that some are attributing to DU.

John
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Dapra" <sjd at swcp.com>
To: "radsafe" <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RE: birth defects in Basrah


> April 18
>
>         Thank you for posting this, John.  Good questions.
>
>         I don't see how birth defects could only have shown up in Basrah, 
> as Salsman claims.  Or at least he says (below) they were only reported in 
> the vicinity.  His original question (RADSAFE, Apr. 3) said:  "Are there 
> any alternative hypotheses for the birth defect increases in Basrah, U.S., 
> and U.K. troops which have not been ruled out?"
>
>         Wasn't DU used in more places than around Basrah?  Even it had 
> only been used there, the anti-DU partisans seem to be saying the 
> windblown DU has spread all over Iraq.
>
>         My guess is that the reason someone keeps posting stuff about 
> folate is that folate appears to be effective in decreasing birth defects, 
> especially spina bifida.  It goes back to the poor diets of the Iraqi 
> people during the 1990s.
>
> Steven Dapra
>
>
> At 10:15 AM 4/18/07 -0700, John Jacobus wrote:
>>Was that the only city reported on?  Have
>>epidemiological studies been performed in other large
>>cities?  What were the birth defect rates 5 years ago?
>>  You need to validate all of the data, not just
>>cherry-pick the stuff that supports your position.
>>
>>As noted by the Michigan Department of Community
>>Health at
>>http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/pha/osr/BirthDefects/summary.asp
>>
>>"During 2003, there were 9,383 cases of birth defects
>>reported for children under one year of age. This
>>translates to an prevalence rate of 725.0 cases per
>>10,000 resident live births. For children born during
>>2002, there were 11,128 cases reported for children
>>under 2 years of age for an prevalence rate was 869.3
>>cases per 10,000 resident live births. The prevalence
>>rate for 2 year olds based upon reported cases has
>>been above 800 per 10,000 for the past three years and
>>following a significant effort to improve reporting
>>quality and completeness."
>>
>>I doubt there is much DU in Michigan.
>>
>>--- James Salsman <jsalsman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Why do you keep posting stuff about folate?  Basrah
>> > was the only place
>> > in the vicinity reporting an increase in birth
>> > defects.
>> >
>
> [edit]
>
>
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