[ RadSafe ] RE: [AMRSO] On This Day( NY Times) - Observation of Moment of Silence

[John R Johnson]

Steven et al

This thread is interesting.

This is not a radiation protection issue, but when we visited China (Macau, 
Hong Kong, Beinging, etc) last year I was reminded of the Japanese 
internment of allied military personal in places like Hong Kong.

What the "Japanese conquerors" did to ordinarycitizens of occupied countries 
is not acceptable.

John
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Dapra" <sjd at swcp.com>
To: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] RE: [AMRSO] On This Day( NY Times) - Observation of 
Moment of Silence


> Aug. 9
>



>         Japan has always been a very regimented nation, and during WWII it 
> was a police state.  The "enablers" etc., didn't have much of a choice in 
> the matter.  It was do what you're told, or else.  The "eager supporters" 
> undoubtedly lost much or all of their former enthusiasm when the coffins 
> and the 'we regret to inform you" telegrams began arriving.  For a 
> present-day perspective, initially the Bush II war on Iraq was popular. 
> Now it isn't.
>
>         Both individual and mass human behavior can become very 
> complicated and convoluted in wartime.
>
> Steven Dapra
> sjd at swcp.com
>
>
>
> At 09:54 AM 8/9/07 -0700, Brennan, Mike  (DOH) wrote:
>>There were far, far more than just two crimes; there were almost an 
>>infinite number of crimes, with most of them committed or ordered by those 
>>controlling the Japanese government.  There is no justification at all to 
>>believe that those committing the crimes would stop, short of such 
>>overwhelming force as to kill them or break Japan's ability to continue 
>>the War.  The resolve of the Western Allies (and the greed of the Soviet 
>>Union) was such that Japan was going to be defeated; the only question was 
>>at what cost.  The first bomb did not convince those in power.  Even after 
>>the second bomb there were men in the High Command who tried to intercept 
>>the Emperor's surrender message, as they were willing to fight to the last 
>>Japanese person they could control.
>>
>>I have the deepest the citizens of Japan who had no control over their 
>>government, and who only wanted to raise their families in piece.  But 
>>while they were in some ways the victims of their leaders, they were also 
>>their enablers, providing the soldiers, making the weapons, unresistingly 
>>giving whatever was demanded of them.  They were also the eager supporters 
>>of the Japanese expansionist policy, especially in the early days, when 
>>the deaths of civilians happened in places like China and Singapore and 
>>the Philippines and New Guinea and Korea and...  Breaking their will to 
>>continue supporting the War was a necessary part of ending the War.
>>
>>For those who wish to improve their understanding of the War in the 
>>Pacific, I strongly recommend "Japan at War: An Oral History", available 
>>at Amazon at 
>>http://www.amazon.com/Japan-at-War-Oral-History/dp/1565840399/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-0859248-4214836?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186676568&sr=8-1, 
>>and in most English language libraries.  The first hand accounts, most of 
>>them from ordinary civilians and lower rank military personnel, helped me 
>>to understand how tragic ALL of the War was, not just the two atomic 
>>bombings, and also how, without those bombings, Japanese might be on its 
>>way to being a dead language, and the Japanese culture crushed beyond 
>>recovery.
>
>
>
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