[ RadSafe ] Doyle and Ryan Gulf war reproductive health paper

Sun Feb 11 01:26:01 CST 2007

   Having lived on and worked aboard Navy ships and Submarines for many years I can assure you that they are sufficiently large enough to adequately store any type of energetic material far enough away from berthing to prevent unnecessary personnel exposure.  The US Navy has the worlds greatest collective experience with operations of nuclear reactors!  Storage of DU isn't difficult when compared to all that the Navy has accomplished since Admiral Rickover launched the Navy Nuclear program.

     The major reason for continued research and development into armor penetrating munitions is very straight forward, development of a better means to vanquish the enemy.  Politics or political fall out, i.e. bad publicity, are only a very distant secondary consideration for the military.

John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com> wrote:
  One of the reasons that tungsten is being considered
as a replacement for DU is that on Navy ships, DU
storage areas are frequently adjacent to berthing
compartments. As U-238 decays, the daughter products
emit photons of significant energies that may to lead
to exposures to the men (and women) in the berthing
areas. For the Army and Air Force, their people do
not sleep to DU storage areas.

--- "Robert J. Gunter" 
wrote:

> "The fact that the DoE is trying so hard to come up
> with tungsten
> replacements, and issuing press releases about it,
> should be proof enough
> that there is a reason to do so."
> 
> James, we can agree on this. There is a "reason". 
> Sometimes things are
> done simply for PR (public relations). This should
> not be a surprise to
> anyone living in the US of A.
> 
> Robert J. Gunter, CHP
> CHP Consultants
> Oak Ridge, TN
> Ph: (865) 387-0028
> Fax: (865) 483-7189
> rjgunter at chpconsultants.com
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> www.chpconsultants.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf
> Of James Salsman
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:38 PM
> To: Syd H. Levine
> Cc: radsafelist
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Doyle and Ryan Gulf war
> reproductive health paper
> 
> Uranium combustion product inhalation isn't a
> liberal or conservative
> issue (and it has nothing to do with the trouble I
> was in as a
> teenager twenty years ago.) The longer everyone
> keeps their heads in
> the sand, the more damage will be done.
> 
> Dr. Raabe's attempt at refutation, claiming that
> "all" the uranium
> trioxide gas condenses "instantaneously" is not
> supported by his
> published work, and is contradicted by multiple
> sources. The idea of
> using urine testing to detect UO3 inhalation after
> more than a few
> weeks was completely debunked by Stradling et al. in
> 1998.
> 
> The fact that the DoE is trying so hard to come up
> with tungsten
> replacements, and issuing press releases about it,
> should be proof
> enough that there is a reason to do so. Those of
> you who can't see
> this, I don't know what I could possibly say to help
> you. There are
> more effective forums than this for me to keep
> explaining all this in.
> Time will tell.
> 
> Sincerely,
> James Salsman
> 
> On 2/8/07, Syd H. Levine 
> wrote:
> > I am sure you do consider yourself to be liberal. 
> Something about peas
> and
> > a pod comes to mind...
> >
> > From: "John Jacobus" 
> >
> >
> > > Syd,
> > > I consider myself to be liberal, and take
> offense with
> > > bing associating with Mr. Salsman.
> >
> >
> >
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-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com

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