[ RadSafe ] half of burning uranium becomes gas vapor

[Eric D]

Mr. Salsman,

Your accusation (I am a liar) is unfounded.  I provided the information I
based my statements upon and this is an old discussion.  A recently released
National Academy of Sciences report (2006) is in line with my original
statement as are the many other independent, published studies cited in this
work.  Unpublished results are just that.  I would suggest you read earlier
posts that discuss the topic of lying.

I disagree with your connecting Dr. Kang's results as an endorsement of your
position that DU is a causal factor.  There are no data that support your
inference.  

I would like to see the references for "... people to propose using urine
testing to measure uranium exposure, instead of measuring chromosome damage
from uranyl poisoning, which is a much more accurate method of measuring
exposure to uranium trioxide gas."  If anyone on the list has information to
corroborate or to disprove the statement, I would appreciate it.  I believe
it to be incorrect.

Once again you are discussing the vapor issue, the uranium trioxide and DoD
testing which has already been laid to rest multiple times. I skimmed the
1970 article you provided and saw no mention of uranium trioxide and very
little discussion of uranium.  The paper focused on Pu.  If you read the
discussion with an understanding of vapors and the experiment itself, the
results are in line with the many articles published since this work was
done.

Dr. Johnson's statement that you provided in your link was accurate.  He
agreed with my statement, I am assuming, because of his study and the rest
of the scientific community's research into the health effects of DU.  

Your argument appears to be that if someone disagrees with you they are
either a "liar" or "...are betraying the interests of truth, science..."
Your post illustrates a previous discussion thread on this web site.

Eric Daxon, PhD, CHP



-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf
Of James Salsman
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:07 PM
To: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: [ RadSafe ] half of burning uranium becomes gas vapor

When I see posts like this...

  http://lists.radlab.nl/pipermail/radsafe/2006-November/004495.html

I wonder why Dr. Johnson is agreeing with someone who has been proven to
have lied about epidemiological birth defect research results.  To make a
long
story short, Dr. Kang, a Veterans Administration epidemiologist, has been
tracking an increasing trend of birth defects in the children of 1991 Gulf
War
veterans, and Colonel Daxon claimed that Dr. Kang's unpublished research
indicated the trend had decreased.  In fact, in is increasing more sharply
than
ever.  (Roger H, did you ever call Dr. Kang to confirm after I gave
you his phone
number?)

The only reason I can think that Dr. Johnson would want to agree with a
proven
liar is because he was responsible, in the 1990s for proving the "safety" of
depleted uranium munitions.  In doing so, he never considered the amount of
uranium which becomes gas vapor instead of particulates, which settle much
more quickly, when it burns.  Neither has anyone else in the military
or industrial
production of DU munitions.

Sadly, this state of affairs has caused otherwise-intelligent people to
propose
using urine testing to measure uranium exposure, instead of measuring
chromosome damage from uranyl poisoning, which is a much more accurate
method of measuring exposure to uranium trioxide gas.

I note that fully half of burning uranium becomes gas vapor, see page 836 of
Carter, R.F. and K. Stewart (1970) "On the oxide fume formed by the
combustion of plutonium and uranium" Inhaled Particles 2:819-38:
  http://www.bovik.org/du/CarterStewart.pdf 

I suspect that the people who lie about depleted uranium think that they are
doing our military a favor.  In fact, they are betraying the interests
of truth,
science, the health of our nation's armed forces, and their ability to
recruit,
upon which they rely.

Sincerely,
James Salsman
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