AW: [ RadSafe ] Mangano (Mango's) Tooth Fairy Sr Radiochemistry

Fri Jul 6 10:15:54 CDT 2007

Franz,
I only replied to Erik's e-mail.  I did not change the
Mangano to Mango, and regret not noticing the change
in the subject line.  

--- Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>
wrote:

> Sorry, John, but distorting the name "Mangano" to
> "Mango" is in my
> perception unacceptable and an insult, though you
> might know that I do not
> agree with his agenda. 
> 
> I hope this was an error.
> 
> Franz
> 
> Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
> MinRat i.R.
> Habicherg. 31/7
> A-1160 Wien/Vienna
> AUSTRIA
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im Auftrag
> von John Jacobus
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 03. Juli 2007 22:25
> An: Nielsen, Erik; radsafe at radlab.nl
> Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mango's Tooth Fairy Sr
> Radiochemistry
> 
> Erik,
> Of course explaining your concerns, which would cast
> doubt on the TFP, might be hard to explain to the
> public.  Nevertheless, I believe the public can
> understand the problems with the TFP, excluding the
> minorite that are already convinced.  I would
> include
> those who may have had a child with cancer and need
> a
> reason behind the cancer, like a local nuclear power
> plant.
> 
> --- "Nielsen, Erik" <nielseec at nv.doe.gov> wrote:
> 
> > Mango has documented the methods used for his NJ
> > Toothfairy project.  It
> > can be found at:
> > http://unplugsalem.org/radioactive_strontium.htm
> > 
> > As a radiochemist I have a number of concerns
> about
> > the analytical
> > methodology.
> > 
> > 1. The seperation technique is not elementally
> > specific and is not
> > generally accepted as accurate.  Specifically
> there
> > is no seperation
> > chemistry to remove radium.  This could result in
> a
> > high bias based on
> > naturally occurring Ra-226 and Ra-228 codeposited
> > with calcium.  New
> > Jersey is known to have Ra-226/228 and Ra-224
> issues
> > in their drinking
> > water.  The seperation chemistry is so non
> specific
> > that they purport to
> > precipitate yttrium with the calcium and
> strontium.
> > 
> > 2. Liquid scintillation efficiencies are affected
> by
> > chemical and color
> > quenching.  The method is unclear on quench
> > corrrections. The efficiency
> > was calculated using standards in a different acid
> > composition than the
> > samples.
> > 
> > 3.  Statistical errors made in calculating
> detection
> > limits based on
> > backgrounds counting significantly longer than
> > sample counting times.
> > Unclear if backgrounds are the same acid
> compostion
> > as the samples.
> > 
> > 4. No yield correction attempted for recovery
> > fraction of the stable
> > carriers added.
> > 
> > 5. Nothing other than self referential material
> > found on google for
> > Radiological and Environmental Measurement Systems
> > of Waterloo, Candada.
> > It's only customers seem to be anti-nuclear
> activist
> > organizations:
> > Military Toxics Project, National Gulf War
> Resource
> > Center and the Tooth
> > Fairy Project. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Erik C. Nielsen 
> > Senior Scientist 
> > Remote Sensing Laboratory 
> > P.O. Box 98521, M/S RSL-47 
> > Las Vegas, NV 89193-8521 
> > 
> >
>
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> > m 
> > 
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