[ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle
Kai Kaletsch
eic at shaw.ca
Sat Mar 17 16:06:51 CDT 2007
oops, sent this from the wrong address.
> Hi Blaine,
>
> Yes, I understand that the program was trying to make the first point that
> CO2 DOESN'T DRIVE GLOBAL WARMING. To me, that is an irrelevant point.
> Maybe, solar activity has more effect than CO2. That does not necessarily
> mean we don't have to worry about the perturbations that CO2 causes, above
> what is caused by solar activity. In fact, when they present the graph of
> solar activity vs temperature, there is pretty good agreement, until you
> get to the last 30 years. Both lines go in the same direction, but by
> completely different magnitudes. So, it looks like something changed (i.e.
> a perturbation was introduced) in the solar activity vs climate
> relationship. (They don't leave that graph on the screen very long. They
> take their time following the curves as they get drawn for the last few
> hundred years, where they agree very well, and then take the graph off
> very quickly after the last 30 years are drawn and one line shows a slight
> kink upwards and the other one seems to go off the chart.)
>
> Now, it looks like I indeed missed your second point that "...x% increase
> in CO2 will have no effect on global warming." Where exactly was that
> point made? In fact, I got the complete opposite impression: Near the end
> of the show, one of the skeptics argues that the global warming proponents
> are using bigger CO2 emissions than there actually are and he goes on to
> say something like NO WONDER they are predicting high temperature
> increases.
>
> I don't understand how that statement is compatible with your assertion
> that x% increase in CO2 will have no effect on global warming. That
> skeptic seems to say that, obviously, CO2 causes global warming, but we
> overestimate the effect because we overestimate the source term.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Kai
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Blaine Howard" <blainehoward at yahoo.com>
> To: "Kai Kaletsch" <eic at shaw.ca>
> Cc: <radsafe at radlab.nl>
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle
>
>
>> Dear Kai,
>> I read your comments about "The Great Global Warming
>> Swindle " with interest. I wondered how you missed
>> the whole point of the video.
>> The main points are:
>> FIRST AND FOREMOST, CO2 DOESN'T DRIVE GLOBAL WARMING.
>>
>> Man made emissions are trivial and CO2 concentrations
>> do not drive global warming. It is not a cause and
>> effect relationship, so x% increase in CO2 will have
>> no effect on global warming.
>> The great oceans are a tremendous reservoir for CO2
>> which buffers the effect of current emissions,
>> spreading it over hundreds of years.
>> The primary factors for global warming (and cooling)
>> are the SUN and the CLOUDS (water vapor).
>> These are factors over which we have absolutely no
>> control. So to limit the underdeveloped countries to
>> not using the energy sources available to them and
>> asking them to get there electricity from solar and
>> wind generators is ridiculous and cruel to the poor
>> people of those countries.
>> The earth has a tremendous capacity for temperature
>> control since it was designed by the ultimate expert.
>> So we need to back off from trying to control the
>> uncontrollable and develop the energy sources He has
>> made available to us for the benefit of all mankind.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Blaine N. Howard
>>
>>
>
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