[ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle

Sun Mar 18 19:32:59 CDT 2007

Nuclear power SHOULD be promoted by believers that coal plants cause sea level rise, 
  That is the radsafe pertinence.

  Actually, the antartic ice cap is thickening and any artic ice melt won't change sea levels, since it is floating (test that with ice cubes in a glass of water).

  Howard Long

John R Johnson <idias at interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:
  Khalid

It is because global warming is causing the ocean levels to rise.

John
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dr. Khalid Aleissa" 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle

Although the topic is interesting but, I do not see any real relationship
between global warming and radiation protection?

Khalid

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf
Of John R Johnson
Sent: 18 March, 2007 09:34 ã
To: Kai Kaletsch; Otto G. Raabe
Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle

Kai

I live in Canada also, and am concerned about global warming and the melting

of the polar "ice caps". Our house is over 100 m above sea level but houses
below us in Vancouver and in other cities on the three coasts are concerned
because they will be under water.

John
***************
John R Johnson, PhD
CEO, IDIAS, Inc.
Vancouver, B. C.
Canada
(604) 222-9840
idias at interchange.ubc.ca

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kai Kaletsch" 
To: "Otto G. Raabe" 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle

>I agree with what Otto said and I'm not particularly alarmed about global
>warming. Living in Canada, its a bit of a stretch to try to convince me
>that shorter, warmer winters are a bad thing.
>
> However, given that we all agree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas, I think it
> is a fair question to ask: How much would the temperature increase if we
> keep increasing our CO2 output at the current rate (assuming no change in
> solar activity etc)? Unfortunately, the global warming skeptics have not
> provided a quantitative answer. If the answer depends on inputs that we
> don't know, then give me a range of possibilities (and, if possible,
> probabilities).
>
> I don't like questions like: How much of our 0.2C temperature increase
> since 1940 is due to industrial CO2 releases?
>
> To some people, this implies that all individual contributing factors have

> to be less than 0.2C. Of course, this does not follow logically. You could

> have a 2.2C warming due to CO2, offset by a 0.2C cooling because of
> reduced solar activity (please correct me if I'm wrong, but, if I remember

> the graph correctly, the current level of solar activity is still less
> than the 1940 peak, while the current temperatures are higher) and a 1.8C
> cooling due to emissions that block sunlight. (For most of the time since
> the industrial revolution, we have emitted fairly little CO2 and lots of
> other pollution, like SO2 and particulate. In the west, we have only
> recently started to reduce these. Other places in the world are still
> emitting a lot of that stuff.)
>
> Regards,
> Kai
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Otto G. Raabe
> To: Blaine Howard ; Kai Kaletsch
> Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] The Great Global Warming Swindle
>
>
> March 17, 2007
>
> According to MIT Professor Richard Lindzen, one of the National Research
> Council global warming panelist and lead author on the new UN report: "Our

> primary conclusion was that despite some knowledge and some agreement, the

> science is by no means settled. We are quite confident (1) that global
> mean temperature is about 0.5 degrees Celsius higher than a century ago;
> (2) that atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide have risen over the past two

> centuries; and (3) that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas whose increase
> is likely to warm the earth. But-- and I cannot stress this enough -- we
> are NOT in a position to confidently attribute past climate change to
> carbon dioxide or to forecast what the climate will be in the future."
>
> Unfortunately the press and those who wrote so-called "summaries" of the
> UN report did not understand or wanted to ignore how little is truly
> known! Sunspot activity does correlate almost perfectly with mean earth
> temperatures over the last 150 years, so it seems clear that it is
> unlikely that there is a meaningful anthropomorphic factor associated with

> the average temperature of the earth. Also, an increase of only 0.5
> degrees Celsius in 100 years is not alarming.
>
> Otto
>
>
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> Center for Health & the Environment
> University of California
> One Shields Avenue
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