[ RadSafe ] uranium solubility and acute and chronic exposures onthe Russia-Georgia border
HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net
HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net
Tue Aug 12 13:06:53 CDT 2008
Extra-nuclear inheritance from cytoplasmic bodies has been documented since I failed to find data on it in 1960. "Stress" has many larger components than presence of a relatively inactive element, U.
that could affect fetal health.
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From: "Brennan, Mike (DOH)" <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV>
> There has been some research indicating that in some species stress
> increases the rate of mutation within a population. There are
> reasonable hypothesis as to why this would be so, both from an
> evolutionary advantage perspective and from a perspective of what
> happens within the body of a mother who is stressed. If you ask any
> midwife or OBGYN you will likely find that they are convinced that
> stressed mothers have, as a rule, babies that are less healthy than
> mothers who are not stressed. One can reasonably argue that this
> observed effect may play out at a chromosomal level, too.
> I thus strikes me that if you wish to be convincing in your claim that
> uranium from projectiles are responsible for mutations in a population
> living in a war zone you must first (1) demonstrate that the mutation
> rate in that population is in fact higher than to be expected (no cherry
> picking of data! That decreases rather than increases the validity of
> your case), and (2) you need to demonstrate that other factors, such as
> stress, can not explain your observations.
> In most cases I would encourage you to look through the literature to
> find relevant studies, but the evidence is conclusive that you have
> problems finding relevant studies, or interpreting studies that you find
> in a relevant way. I therefore encourage you to go to Georgia and
> conduct a study firsthand, tracking all women in the region from
> conception through birth, and then tracking the children to adulthood,
> paying particular attention to diet, drinking water, alcohol
> consumption, pollution levels, political conditions, exposure to
> violence, and blood uranium levels.
> When you are done, I would be happy to proofread your report, and spot
> any errors that might have crept in.
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> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
> Behalf Of James Salsman
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:43 PM
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> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] uranium solubility and acute and chronic
> exposures onthe Russia-Georgia border
> Dear Dr. Cedervall,
> You wrote, "If you are trying to imply that a mutation burden could lead
> to some genetic changes on a population level it just tells that you
> haven't studied any of the key messages from the evolution biologists
> and what they developed over the last 80 years."
> That is false. When does a mutation burden not result in genetic
> changes? Certainly the evolution biologists should get more attention
> than the creationist biologists, who tend to say silly things that, for
> example, imply that evil has parents, or roots, and is not often the
> result of the spontaneous chance events such as nuclear decay.
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