[ RadSafe ] uranium solubility and acute and chronic exposures onthe Russia-Georgia border

HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net
Tue Aug 12 13:06:53 CDT 2008

Extra-nuclear inheritance from cytoplasmic bodies has been documented since I failed to find data on it in 1960. "Stress" has many larger components than presence of a relatively inactive element, U.
that could affect fetal health.
Howard Long

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From: "Brennan, Mike (DOH)" <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV> 

> James, 
> There has been some research indicating that in some species stress 
> increases the rate of mutation within a population. There are 
> reasonable hypothesis as to why this would be so, both from an 
> evolutionary advantage perspective and from a perspective of what 
> happens within the body of a mother who is stressed. If you ask any 
> midwife or OBGYN you will likely find that they are convinced that 
> stressed mothers have, as a rule, babies that are less healthy than 
> mothers who are not stressed. One can reasonably argue that this 
> observed effect may play out at a chromosomal level, too. 
> I thus strikes me that if you wish to be convincing in your claim that 
> uranium from projectiles are responsible for mutations in a population 
> living in a war zone you must first (1) demonstrate that the mutation 
> rate in that population is in fact higher than to be expected (no cherry 
> picking of data! That decreases rather than increases the validity of 
> your case), and (2) you need to demonstrate that other factors, such as 
> stress, can not explain your observations. 
> In most cases I would encourage you to look through the literature to 
> find relevant studies, but the evidence is conclusive that you have 
> problems finding relevant studies, or interpreting studies that you find 
> in a relevant way. I therefore encourage you to go to Georgia and 
> conduct a study firsthand, tracking all women in the region from 
> conception through birth, and then tracking the children to adulthood, 
> paying particular attention to diet, drinking water, alcohol 
> consumption, pollution levels, political conditions, exposure to 
> violence, and blood uranium levels. 
> When you are done, I would be happy to proofread your report, and spot 
> any errors that might have crept in. 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On 
> Behalf Of James Salsman 
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:43 PM 
> To: bcradsafers at hotmail.com; radsafelist 
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] uranium solubility and acute and chronic 
> exposures onthe Russia-Georgia border 
> Dear Dr. Cedervall, 
> You wrote, "If you are trying to imply that a mutation burden could lead 
> to some genetic changes on a population level it just tells that you 
> haven't studied any of the key messages from the evolution biologists 
> and what they developed over the last 80 years." 
> That is false. When does a mutation burden not result in genetic 
> changes? Certainly the evolution biologists should get more attention 
> than the creationist biologists, who tend to say silly things that, for 
> example, imply that evil has parents, or roots, and is not often the 
> result of the spontaneous chance events such as nuclear decay. 
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