[ RadSafe ] Re. uranium solubility and acute and chronicexposureson the Russia-Georgia border

NIXON, Grant Grant.NIXON at mdsinc.com
Wed Aug 13 14:32:09 CDT 2008


Open letter to the radsafe moderator: 

Would it not be reasonable to have people removed from the radsafe list
on account of demonstrated single-minded, self-serving agendas?
Political agendas have no place on a scientific forum - particularly so
when they are at odds with well-established science and all other means
of cogent reasoning.

Grant I. Nixon, Ph.D., P.Phys.
Science Specialist (Dosimetry/Physics/Engineering)
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-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Rainer.Facius at dlr.de
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:23 PM
To: garyi at trinityphysics.com; willis.219 at osu.edu; radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: AW: [ RadSafe ] Re: uranium solubility and acute and
chronicexposureson the Russia-Georgia border

Gary,

you may be right. However, maintaining a factual and civilized tenor in
answering James Salsman's rigmarole strains my composure to an extent I
only rarely can afford. I have tried a few times only to provoke his
standard reflex of switching the issue - and his one competence appears
to be his ability of doing this ad infinitum. Monotonous, stereotyped
rebuttals on the other hand are not my style of discourse. Therefore I
cannot but ignore his 'contributions'. Sorry!

Good luck and kind regards, Rainer


________________________________

Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl im Auftrag von garyi at trinityphysics.com
Gesendet: Mi 13.08.2008 16:48
An: Carl A. Willis; radsafe at radlab.nl
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Re: uranium solubility and acute and
chronicexposures on the Russia-Georgia border



Hi Carl,

I'm with you in spirit, but James does not want to chat with people he
already agrees with. 
His desire is for everyone to join him in his ... belief.  Until he gets
that he will seek out forums
like this one.  So the choices are to remain silent and tacitly validate
his assertions on
Radsafe, or to counter his misinformation.  IMHO, the world has seen far
too much of the first
sort of choice.  If the wise won't speak up, then fools will rule.

I agree with you that it is very tedious to watch arguments that were
shown to be wrong a
month ago endlessly recycled and lifted up as bright and new ideas.  If
you really can't
stomach it then make use of your email client to filter any messages to
or from Salsman. 

However, it would be over far sooner with happier results if a large
fraction of the list would
speak up and say they think he's wrong (if indeed they do think so).  I
imagine it would be
very hard for Salsman to continue after hundreds of posts from various
Radsafe experts tell
him he's wrong. 

How about it Radsafe?  Either continue to endorse Salsman with your
silence, or speak up at
least once to put the DU circus to rest.

-Gary Isenhower


On 12 Aug 2008 at 22:23, Carl A. Willis wrote:


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We need to perform a troll-ectomy up in this piece!

If James Salsman and his counter-respondents want to give continued
lip service to the perennially trollacious DU issue (troll material =
agenda-driven, ad-hominem, bankrupt of new informational value), why
don't you guys go start a forum or listserv of your own to handle just
the amateur DU debate!  The process of starting a list or forum is
free and easy these days.  Call it "DUSafe," get the irrelevant
flamewar on to your hearts' content, and stop sucking up all the
bandwidth on RADSAFE.

In fact, it would enormously benefit my perception of your
motives--regardless of your stance on uranium--if you would have the
courtesy to do this.  I suspect there is a vast silent majority of
subscribers whose areas of interest and work have nothing to do with
the present kerfuffle and would also welcome the return to
professionalism and objectivity.

-Carl

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