[ RadSafe ] False alarms: was: NYC permitting of detectors
Jim Hardeman
Jim.Hardeman at dnr.state.ga.us
Mon Feb 11 18:38:24 CST 2008
Clayton --
I agree w/ your conclusions, but I think you may be significantly underestimating the effort required to determine whether an alarm is "false". I'm not entirely certain of NYPD's CONOPS (concept of operations) but I believe alarm adjudication requires identification of the radionuclide(s) giving rise to the alarm. As most street cops to not carry radionuclide identification hardware, it may be 15 minutes or more before they can close out an alarm.
Just an observation ...
Jim
Jim.Hardeman at dnr.state.ga.us
>>> Clayton Bradt <dutchbradt at hughes.net> 2/11/2008 07:27 >>>
Steve Dapra wrote:
"I do not know how many false alarms
have been answered..."
If a True Positive is taken to be
detection of a WMD, then we know that
all of the alarms have been false.
Since on any given day there are about
10,000 people in NYC that have had a
nuclear medicine procedure within the
past ten days (20,000,000 nuc med
studies per year in the US prorated to
population of NYC) and therefore likely
to set off a police pager, if we assume
one radioactive WMD plying NYC streets
daily - then the positive predictive
value of a positive detect by a police
pager is about 1/10,000. For every
10,000 false alarms each day, there
would be one True Positive. That's 170
man-hours daily just resolving false
alarms - if we assume just one minute
is required to resolve each false
alarm.
The number of false alarms generated
by the police themselves is
overwhelming. A few additional ones
from civilians would be
inconsequential, even if they were
reported to NYPD.
The irony is that the civilians using
radiation detectors are in general far
more knowlegable in health physics than
the cops carrying pagers, and so
unlikely to mistake a false positive
for a WMD.
Clayton Bradt
dutchbradt at hughes.net
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