[ RadSafe ] NYC Proposal to Permit Radiation Detectors
Steven Dapra
sjd at swcp.com
Fri Jan 4 22:58:25 CST 2008
Jan. 4
A few comments on the proposed law before the NYC Council (My
thanks to Clayton Bradt for posting this proposed law.)
10-807 Rules.
a. The commissioner is authorized to promulgate such rules as he or she
deems necessary to implement the provisions of this chapter.
b. To promote the legislative purposes of this chapter, such rules may
include but are not limited to:
(1) minimum technical standards and capabilities that must be met by
biological, chemical and radiological detectors, as determined in
consultation with other appropriate city agencies, including but not
limited to the department of health and mental hygiene and department of
environmental protection;
COMMENT:
Standards will be determined by the city (the police commissioner)
in consultation with the appropriate city agencies. Do the manufacturers
of the detectors fit into this anywhere, and if so, where? Will the city
accept the existing standards for detectors, or will it put a bunch of
bureaucrats to work drawing up new standards? How will these be
decided? Will they be written to include only certain manufacturers? It's
going to be a little like writing bid specifications. Some of us have
probably been exposed to the seamy underside of that. -----
(3) the thresholds of an indicated biological agent, chemical agent,
radiation or radioactive substance, as determined in consultation with the
department of health and mental hygiene and the department of environmental
protection, at which the police department must be notified by the permit
holder or other action by such permit holder must be taken;
COMMENT:
Do all such agents have established thresholds? Which threshold
will be used: IDLH? PEL? If different agencies have different
thresholds, which agencies will rule? Will the Federal EPA trump the city
of New York? Will the state want to get its oar in on this? Is there a
potential here for some nasty jurisdictional disputes? -----
(5) requirements relating to the means by which the police department will
be notified in the event of an alarm;
COMMENT:
Mike Brennan wrote, "The definition connected with chemical
detectors would mean that all smoke detectors, carbon monoxide detectors,
natural gas detectors would have to be permitted, as well as all testers
used for closed space entry, installed devices at places like dry-cleaners,
even the equipment use smog-check cars."
What if a bunch of hippies are smoking dope and set off their
smoke detector? Will they call in a notification? Send a text
message? Who is going to take all these calls? Wait until winter comes
and all the defective furnaces begin setting off the carbon monoxide
detectors. Mike also wrote, "I doubt you could even start such a program
to handle this with less than a hundred or so people and all their support
equipment." Not to detract from Mike's observation, but NYC would probably
have to add several hundred police department operators to take all the
telephone calls just to handle chemical detector alarms.
The ordinance says, "The commissioner shall review the application
and investigate the information contained therein, requesting and receiving
from the applicant any further information as may be necessary for his or
her determination."
NYC will need hundreds of employees to review all the
applications. Another provision of the ordinance says, the commissioner
shall write rules specifying "requirements relating to the character and
fitness of applicants to possess or deploy such detectors . . ." How many
thousands of spies and snoopers will be needed to determine character and
fitness?
Point made, and enough comments. Assuming that the city of New
York is serious about applying this thing in its present form, reviewing
applications and establishing "character and fitness" would require the
founding of a police state whose scope of duties and whose power would
surpass any police state in human history. Such a police state would more
than dwarf the police state that presently rules and reigns in Communist China.
This proposed ordinance cannot be revised or re-written, it needs
to be thrown out and permanently forgotten about.
Steven Dapra
sjd at swcp.com
At 04:22 PM 1/4/08 -0500, Clayton J Bradt wrote:
>Below is the text of a proposed law before the NYC Council that, as
>written, could require all radiation detectors in NYC to be permitted by
>the Commissioner of Police. It would set technical specifications for
>detectors to meet in order to be permitted, and would require that each
>alarm indicating the presence of radiation or radioactive material be
>reported immediately to NYPD.
>
>A public hearing on the proposal is scheduled for Tuesday, January 8.
>RADSAFERs located in NYC may want to comment on this. It certainly seems
>that this could very much complicate the lives of everyone who handles
>radioactive materials or makes use ionizing radiation in NYC, whether or
>not they are licensees of the City or State Departments of Health or the NRC.
>
>It aint pretty.
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