[ RadSafe ] Re: More radiation, less heart disease (much of total) NSWS

[John Jacobus]

Dr. Long,
  Please reply to me off list server about this quotation.   

howard long <hflong at pacbell.net> wrote:
               
  "The ubiquitous nature of the radiation response in cellular, animal and epidemiological studies 
  negates the healthy worker effect as an explanation for hormesis." BScott at lrri.org
  Howard Long


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From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com>
To: howard long <hflong at pacbell.net>; John R Johnson <idias at interchange.ubc.ca>; Fred Dawson <fred-dawson at blueyonder.co.uk>; srp-uk at yahoogroups.com
Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 3:05:36 PM
Subject: Re: radiation and heart disease link - prevention!

  Dr. Long,
  I am not the one who originally questioned this study.  The fact that the unexposed workers had a higher cancer rate than the general population brings into question the validity of the study beyond the intent.  I can, and have, provided you with copies of the analysis of the study.  Unfortunately, your beliefs do not change the facts that this is not a reliable reference.  
   
  The fact that the workers "appear" to be healthier does not translate into lower risk of heart disease.  As a physician, I assume that you know that heart disease is not the only cause of death.  Your conjecture that the study " MUST have included reduction in heart disease" is clearly without proof or merit beyond your own spectulation.  
   
  Dr. Cameron was a well recognized physicist who gave much to the medical physics community.  Nevertheless, he was no epidemiologist.
   
  Again, if you wish to continue this discussion with me, please do so off-list.  We need to respect the wishes of those who do not what to again be bothered with this issue.
  
-- John
  
howard long <hflong at pacbell.net> wrote:
      John,
  Your persistent denigration of Cameron's work 
  does require correction to all Radsafe.
   
  NSWS revelation of amazing reduction in total mortality
   (0.76 expected vs controls that eliminated healthy worker effect)
  when  >0.5 rem accumulated addition, MUST have included 
  reduction in heart disease (over 30% of total mortality).
   
  This small addition of 0.5 rem (rad, cSv etc) is less than 
  a whole body scan and about what I get from 
  sitting on thoriated welding rods 3 hours a day, and
  even more convenient than my sunbathing an hour a week 
  for another healthful radiation supplement. 
   
  I have a cc of Cameron's analysis for all who e-mail for it.
   There was no more healthy worker effect than in the controls.
   
  Thank you for keeping HPs aware.
   
  Howard Long
   
   
  
 








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-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
e-mail:  crispy_bird at yahoo.com
       
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