[ RadSafe ] (no subject)

Sat May 3 12:03:09 CDT 2008

Daren,

I've re-read MY post and realize that 
I over-personalized my response to your 
original.  I owe you a public apology 
and here it is. 

After re-reading YOUR post, I still 
disagree strongly that the military 
should have been involved in any way.  
For one thing, there is no plausible 
nexus between terrorism and radiography 
cameras. For another, the appropriate 
paradigm for dealing with terrorism is 
through law enforcement, not the 
military. 

With perhaps the exception of 
Afghanistan, where the de-facto 
government refused to cooperate and 
hand over Bin Laden & Co., the policy 
to follow the military option rather 
than pursue terrorists as criminals has 
proven to be an unmitigated disaster 
for this country as well as others.  

CLayton Bradt

----Original Message----
From: Daren.Perrero at illinois.gov
Date: 05/02/2008 11:04 
To: "Clayton Bradt"<dutchbradt at hughes.
net>
Subj: RE: [ RadSafe ] (no subject)

Clayton, please reread my post and try 
again.....You will find nothing
in it that says I agree with the 
current practices and polices.  I only
ask questions and offer 
rationalization.  Do I agree with Sen. 
Clinton
and Rep Markey? Absolutely not.  Do I 
think Jazcko is way off base?  You
bet.  Do I think that CsCl irradiators 
are a Chernobyl waiting to
happen?  You've got to be joking.

However I do believe that the more 
information that is in the system,
the better our chances are at finding 
people who are 'Any group of
half-wit n'ere-do-wells' because quite 
frankly, our locals don't have
the time, inclination or resources to 
run down that type of off the wall
information.  In fact I hope and pray 
the n'ere-do-wells try to use
radiation since their efforts would 
largely have been a waste of their
time and give us better than average 
chance of tracking them down.

Daren

Daren Perrero
The opinions expressed are mine, all 
mine....
I'm with the government, I'm here to 
help you.
Daren.Perrero(a)Illinois.gov

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl 
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of Clayton Bradt
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:15 PM
To: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: [ RadSafe ] (no subject)

Daren Perrero wrote:

"After the 9/11 commission met and 
after much post report comments by
other parties the biggest issue 
identified was sharing of information.
Too many people kept 'their part of 
the puzzle' to themselves.  Since
that time there has been a strong 
effort made to share the data so that
trends and leads can be more easily 
tracked.  One camera may be no big
deal, but does one a month raise your 
hackles? Or 10 on a given day
throughout the southwest?

We can debate the health impacts on 
collective risk of those items and
the radiation effects of a WMD were 
those items used, but I don't think
we would disagree that by using the 
information to identify a group of
near-do-wells would be a bad idea. 
That is the intent behind the
Departments and Agencies being part 
of 
the information distribution
chain."
****************************

Come off it, Daren. "9/11" has been 
the preface of nearly every ill 
conceived public policy of the past 7 
years.  Security of radiography 
sources 
is not a military matter.  RDDs are a 
figment of the overactive 
imaginations 
in DHS an elsewhere in the homeland 
security industrial complex.  Never, 
in 
the entire long and sorry history of 
terrorism has such a thing been 
used.  
Why has Isreal never been attacked 
with 
one? -because they simply do not make 
an attractive or effective weapon.  
Radiography sources (Ir-192 and Co-
60) 
are  particularly unattractive 
choices 
for dispersion purposes.  And the 
idea 
of terrorists using a hidden source  
for irradiating unsuspecting 
passersby 
is just ludicrous. 

Any group of half-wit n'ere-do-wells 
trying to amass radiography sources 
for 
nefarious purposes would be 
appropriately handled by local law 
enforcement and the radiation control 
agency.  No military or federal 
entanglements needed.    

Clayton J. Bradt
dutchbradt at hughes.net
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