Fw: Re: [ RadSafe ] PNAS Article: Oncogenic bystander radiationeffects in Patched . . .

[Cary Renquist]

Just click the link below for a pdf copy of the article.

>From an earlier post...

It is a "Open Access" article, so it is a free download.

   Medical Sciences:
   Oncogenic bystander radiation effects in Patched heterozygous mouse
cerebellum
   PNAS published August 18, 2008, doi:10.1073/pnas.0804186105
   http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2008/08/15/0804186105.full.pdf+html
 
Best regards,
Cary

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On
Behalf Of HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, 04 September, 2008 10:30
To: crispy_bird at yahoo.com; radsafe
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [ RadSafe ] PNAS Article: Oncogenic bystander
radiationeffects in Patched . . .

John,
Were you insincere in your offer below to radsafe, to send the article
you comment upon?
Can you think of a better way to know that we are discussing exactly the
same thing?

Please fax it to 925-846-4524!

Howard long

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: John Jacobus <crispy_bird at yahoo.com> 

> As I mentioned below, I find your question ironic. 
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++ 
> It is also a good rule not to put overmuch confidence in the
observational 
> results that are put forward until they are confirmed by theory. 
> Arthur Eddington 
> 
> 
> -- John 
> John Jacobus, MS 
> Certified Health Physicist 
> e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com 
> 
> --- On Wed, 9/3/08, HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net wrote: 
> 
> From: HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net 
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] PNAS Article: Oncogenic bystander radiation
effects in 
> Patched . . . 
> To: crispy_bird at yahoo.com 
> Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 12:32 PM 
> 
> 
> 
> John, 
> I will confirm that we are talking about the same thing when I receive
your 
> offered fax of the article at 
> 925-846-4524. 
> 
> Thank you, Howard long 
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: John Jacobus 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You do not know what the discussion is about? I hope you get the
irony. 
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++ 
> It is also a good rule not to put overmuch confidence in the
observational 
> results that are put forward until they are confirmed by theory. 
> Arthur Eddington 
> 
> 
> -- John 
> John Jacobus, MS 
> Certified Health Physicist 
> e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com 
> 
> --- On Tue, 9/2/08, HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net wrote: 
> 
> From: HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net 
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] PNAS Article: Oncogenic bystander radiation
effects in 
> Patched . . . 
> To: crispy_bird at yahoo.com 
> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 12:08 PM 
> 
> 
> 
> John, to be sure I am reading what you are, please fax it to
925-846-4524. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Howard long 
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: John Jacobus 
> 
> > If anyone is interested in a copy of this article please contace me
directly. 
> > 
> > Mancuso M, et al.,"Oncogenic bystander radiation effects in Patched 
> heterozygous 
> > mouse cerebellum," PNAS, August 26, 2008, Vol. 105, No. 34, Pages
12445-12450 
> > 
> > I think that is really a first rate experiment demonstration the
bystander 
> > effect in vivo. 
> > 
> > As a side note, scatter radiation is NOT associated with the
response 
> observed. 
> > Once again, Dr. Long, it is important to READ the literature, unless
jumping 
> to 
> > conclusions is the only exercise you get. 
> > 
> > 
> > +++++++++++++++++++ 
> > It is also a good rule not to put overmuch confidence in the
observational 
> > results that are put forward until they are confirmed by theory. 
> > Arthur Eddington 
> > 
> > -- John 
> > John Jacobus, MS 
> > Certified Health Physicist 
> > e-mail: crispy_bird at yahoo.com 
> > 
> >