AW: [ RadSafe ] Mobile phone studies in Vienna (translated by Babelfish)

Tue Jul 7 10:04:54 CDT 2009

Dear Chris:

Yikes! Having lived in Austria for 12 years and spoken German for 30, I have
to smile when I see such tortuous automated translations.  You are exactly
correct!

Dan ii

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-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] On Behalf
Of chris.hofmeyr at webmail.co.za
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 16:42
To: Franz Schönhofer
Cc: radsafe at radlab.nl
Subject: Re: AW: [ RadSafe ] Mobile phone studies in Vienna (translated by
Babelfish)

Hi!
German happens to be a very idiomatic language, so a very literal mind
like a translation program is bound to make a hash worth a chuckle.  Add
to that a kind of dialect which I would call Mirrorese, which apparently
appeals to 'intellectuals', and the translation becomes thoroughly
knotted! I doubt whether it is intelligible to someone without some
knowledge of German.
Regards

chris.hofmeyr at webmail.co.za

> Dear Doug and RADSAFErs,
>
> Doug, thank you for your hints regarding pdf-file. Thank you also for
> providing this Babelfish translation because i caused me a smile and the
> security that humans cannot yet be replaced in some fields by computers!
>
> I have a very serious question to the English speaking RADSAFErs: Were you
> able to understand from the translation the content of the article?
> etc.

> Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
> MinRat i.R.
> Habicherg. 31/7
> A-1160 Wien/Vienna
> AUSTRIA
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl [mailto:radsafe-bounces at radlab.nl] Im
> Auftrag
> von Doug Huffman
> Gesendet: Montag, 29. Juni 2009 16:06
> An: Bjorn Cedervall
> Cc: Dutch Radsafers
> Betreff: [ RadSafe ] Mobile phone studies in Vienna (translated by
> Babelfish)
>
> Portable radio: Mauschelei around Mogelstudien
>
> The scandal over presumed falsified portable radio studies at the
> medical University of Vienna (MIRROR 35/2008) finds to no end. How
> thoroughly the processing failed, show minutes of an internal meeting,
> which are present the MIRROR. It loads both the rector and the
> dreiköpfigen „ ethics advice “ the university, which in the thing should
> determine. Under suspicion stood a row of studies, which had excited
> world-wide attention. Allegedly Viennese had found researchers out
> around the work physician Hugo Ruediger that the radio waves damage
> human cell preparations of mobile phones. In truth a Laborantin had
> obviously simply invented the data. „ all eight studies are based to
> that on data, those not by measurements of genuine cells to have
> developed can “, do not judge of Bremen biologist Alexander Lerchl,
> member of the German radiation protection commission. Lerchl, which had
> uncovered the case, sent the Viennese investigators besides a file, in
> which the authors of the study had left inadvertently traitorous traces;
> from this went
> out, as they had suitably counted themselves their data. Although the
> proof situation was crushing, the advice offered according to minutes of
> the council meeting of the 24.Juli 2008 one „ amicable agreement to the
> colleague Ruediger “, around its call „ inadequately not to damage “: He
> may withdraw one of the eight with difficulty suspicious studies – and
> even these only for formal reasons. In response the ethics advice
> promised to let the falsification reproach be based on itself and not to
> touch the remaining seven studies. Spicy detail: The rector Wolfgang
> contactor agreed occupied, with the bent trade, like minutes. In
> addition it fits that the university did not hand the clearing-up over
> of the reproaches, as in such cases usual, to independent experts from
> outside. When consultant came calculated the Viennese psychologist
> Michael Kundi to the course, a well-known portable radio critic, who
> found to expose also little at the work its colleague to Ruediger.
> Rector contactor does not object, another committee further proofs have
> found could. From its view it gave also no amicable agreement; he spoke
> suspicion after the meeting publicly of one „ on heavy scientific
> failure “. Its estimate helped however nothing: Until today no study
> withdrawn – not even those, on which the Mauschler had first agreed. And
> Hugo Ruediger quotes already again publicly from the inkriminierten
> findings, as if nothing would have happened.
> Source: Der Spiegel 26/2009
>
> Bjorn Cedervall wrote:
>> http://www.fmk.at/content.php?id=249&cb=256_1320
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be valuable if someone could summarize the essentials in
>> English
> - or just point at an alternative link with the story in English.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bjorn Cedervall    bcradsafers at hotmail.com
>>
>>
>>
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