[ RadSafe ] Guidance on ALARA
JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com
JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com
Wed Mar 25 14:32:46 CDT 2009
Regarding ALARA,
It seems like the avoided cost approach should work here, but I'm not an
economics person so feel free to add to the discussion.
For example, if the avoided cost of 0.1 mSv is $5000, and the robot costs
$6000 more than a worker to save that 0.1 mSv (over the same time period,
present value cost, etc., etc.), it seems like ALARA would hold that the
worker is the better choice. The usual caveats apply, i.e. total dose has
to be within regulatory limits, it would have to apply to the whole work
crew (10-100 people) vs. the replacement robots, etc., etc.
The point is that ALARA in and of itself does not mandate 0.0 dose. Some
interpreters insist on some pretty ridiculous extremes, but IMHO, that's
only because the numbers are so low now, that we've lost sight of reality.
BTW, I personally "believe" in ALARA, but it aint science, it's an
approach. 'nuff said - - jmr
John Rich
312-269-3768
From:
Jerry Cohen <jjc105 at yahoo.com>
To:
Kai Kaletsch <eic at shaw.ca>
Cc:
radsafe <radsafe at radlab.nl>
Date:
03/25/2009 01:56 PM
Subject:
Re: [ RadSafe ] Guidance on ALARA
Kai,
Where did you get the idea that application of ALARA should make sense?
________________________________
From: Kai Kaletsch <eic at shaw.ca>
To: radsafe at radlab.nl
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:34:55 AM
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Guidance on ALARA
Friends,
Is there any guidance on how to apply ALARA, that takes into account the
benefits to the worker from having a job?
For example, suppose I want to build a uranium mine in an area with high
unemployment and I have the choice of 2 mining methods. One his highly
mechanized and requires importing expensive equipment from outside of the
host country. The other requires 200 more workers, each expected to
receive 5 mSv per year. Further, suppose that the total cost of the 2
methods is identical.
A quantitative ALARA analysis requires that I spend X dollars to avoid 1
Sv of collective dose and, therefore, I should choose the mechanized
option and eliminate 200 jobs.
To me, this does not make any sense. If 5 mSv per year has been found to
present a risk that is no greater than other jobs, and having a job is
considered a good thing, then why should I eliminate any jobs in the name
of ALARA? Who benefits from this????
It seems to me that, to maximize benefits to workers and society, we
should maximize employment first (as long as no one exceeds dose limits),
and only after this has been done apply ALARA.
So, my question is: Is there a statement to that effect issued by any
recognized agency, or is there any other guidance document that recognizes
the benefits of employment in a quantitative way when performing an ALARA
analysis?
I'm aware of the 'social and economic factors taken into account' phrase.
The problem with that is that almost everyone interprets it differently
and it certainly provides no quantitative guidance.
Thanks in advance,
Kai
Kai Kaletsch
Environmental Instruments Canada Inc.
http://www.eic.nu/
http://www.webrad.biz/Introduction.aspx
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