[ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners

[HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net]

Correct, Franz. 

I meant reproduction of <2 children/ couple, a non-reproducing birthrate 

that has even Putin pushing it. 

The Chernobyl abortion panic, as I remember, involved hundreds of thousands of abortions by exposed European mothers-to-be because of radfear -  

despite the noble efforts of scientists like yourself. 



Pollycove's careful experimental science is well known to many Radsafers . 

Some can be viewed through ddponline.org 



Howard Long 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Franz Schönhofer" <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> 
To: "HOWARD LONG" <HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net>, edmond0033 at comcast.net 
Cc: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu, "Ed Hiserodt" <hise at sbcglobal.net>, pollycove at comcast.net 
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2010 12:41:32 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: AW: [ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners 




Howard, 



I am sure that I have a rather good command of English, so I more than wonder, what you write. What do you mean by „European failure to reproduce… much<2/ person“??? (This would make four childen per couple???) Where do you get these numbers from? Could you imagine that birthcontrol is in developed countries a matter of living standard? (BTW I have three „children“, grown up in the mean time.) Where do you take this idiotic claim of „Chernobyl abortion panic“??? You seem to read to many antinuclear propaganda!!! There do not exist any statistics which would indicate a rise in abortions. I remember that I gave at that time an interview on the Austrian Radio clearly stating that it would be irresponsible and unjustifiable to seek abortion and that the health risks (not to talk about psychical impacts) of an abortion would  be by far higher than any theoretically and statistically calculated damage. 



Your Pollycove – if he is the source of the above mentioned nonsense – could probably make a better „research“ than he did for your „UCSF Medical Class“ for the money he sure has received. Some „Hardliners“ (Gary!) will fo r s ure use this comment to pin me down as an „anti-American agitator“. I have high estimate for Ed Baratta, whom I met many years ago at RADCHEM in Marianske Lazne in the Northern Czech Republic and whom I hope to meet at the next one this April again. 



 Best regards, 



Franz 




Franz Schoenhofer, PhD 

MinRat i.R. 

Habicherg. 31/7 

A-1160 Wien/Vienna 

AUSTRIA 



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
Von: HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net [mailto:HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net] 
Gesendet: Montag, 08. März 2010 19:50 
An: edmond0033 at comcast.net 
Cc: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu; Ed Hiserodt; Franz Schönhofer; pollycove at comcast.net 
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners 




Should European failure to reproduce (birth rates much < 2/person), 

aggravated by fatal fears like the Chernobyl abortion panic, 

concern both health physicists and family doctors? 

Ed's anectodal Prologue (summarized below) could enlighten the ignorant. 



Myron Pollycove, formerly of the US Nuclear regulatory Commission, 

enlightened our UCSF Medical class of '50, 5 years ago (at my behest) 

about his research in hormesis. What will he be able to report 

this May about progress with either public or health physicists' 

comprehension of the benefit of 1 to 10 rad/year? 



Howard Long 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: edmond0033 at comcast.net 
To: "Franz Schönhofer" <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> 
Cc: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu, "HOWARD LONG" <HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net>, "Ed Hiserodt" <hise at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 2:27:24 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners 


Franz: 



I agree with you.  There is too much 'Big Brother'.  Imagine if anyone in Radsafe suggested it would be fine if someone should be exposed to 'deadly' radiaton for any reason whatsoever.  Perish the thought.  Hopefully anyone in Radsafe doesn't get picked as a possible terrorist for expressing their opinion. 



Ed Baratta 



edmond0033 at comcast.net 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Franz Schönhofer" <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> 
To: "Franz Schönhofer" <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>, "HOWARD LONG" <HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net>, "Ed Hiserodt" <hise at sbcglobal.net> 
Cc: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu 
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 12:49:34 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners 

RADSAFERs, 

I want to add for clarification, that I am by far not afraid of any 
radiation exposure (why should I!), but I oppose the trend to cut down the 
privacy of people by forcing them to parade "naked" in front of some 
whatever persons and however these pictures deleted later on. This is 
against any human dignity. 

What I understand least of all, is that this humiliating concept originated 
from the USA - the "land of the free", the land claiming to be a spearhead 
to indiviudual rights. Come on, don't tell me about "bla, bla, bla". It is a 
political concept, it is discrimination of foreigners. Having been dozens of 
times in the USA I do not really plan to visit the USA again within the next 
few years. I have the feeling that I am not welcome unless I can prove that 
I am not a Taliban or any other islamic organisation etc. I suppose that 
after sending this message I am registered in the USA because of using 
"Taliban".   
  
Every scientist is welcome to Austria by me and the other authorities 
without having to parade at a naked-scanner at the Vienna Airport. I cannot 
pay any costs for visiting! 

Seriously: I had several participants of RADSAFE already as guests in Vienna 
and I think we mutually enjoyed the guided VIP tour I provided. I encourage 
everybody to contact me for a visit, though I am most of the time not in 
Vienna. 

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD 
MinRat i.R. 
Habicherg. 31/7 
A-1160 Wien/Vienna 
AUSTRIA 


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu 
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Franz Schönhofer 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 07. März 2010 20:02 
An: HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net; 'Ed Hiserodt' 
Cc: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu 
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners 

RADSAFErs 

Please help me to understand, why we have at RADSAFE to deal with all kind 
of nonsensical pseudo-radiation protectional rubbish. 

Howard, I would recommend that you keep to your profession of (as far as I 
understand) family doctor. 

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD 
MinRat i.R. 
Habicherg. 31/7 
A-1160 Wien/Vienna 
AUSTRIA 


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu 
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von 
HOWARD.LONG at comcast.net 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 07. März 2010 18:45 
An: Ed Hiserodt 
Cc: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu 
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners 

"UNDEREXPOSED  -  What if Radiation Is Actually GOOD for You", 
Ed Hiserodt's paperback, is on my waiting room table, and well-thumbed. 

The Prologue is riveting (in brief):    
             " Radiation can be dangerous.  
             So can ignorance.   
X-rays for wrist fracture scared a woman into having an abortion, 
to prevent the 'likelihood of a deformed child' 

 [- ignorant of 200 FEWER deformities in Taiwan apts  

where 4cSv over 10years Chen, Luan, J Am Phys & Surg 13/1/Spring '08]. 

A health physicist estimated the increased radiation as less 
than from a coast to coast flight. - 
I wonder what my niece or nephew would have been like" 

                       Publicize your engineering analysis, Ed! 
Howard Long, family doctor  

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Hiserodt" <hise at sbcglobal.net> 
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu 
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 8:36:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Airport Body Scanners 

I recently received this email from a friend who thinks that I know 
something about radiation since I wrote a book on the beneficial effects of 
LLR.  Hey, when did writing on a subject and having any knowledge of it 
become synonymous?   (Remember Al Gore?)  Anyway here is his question.  Any 
comments on it would be appreciated.  

"Regarding the virtual strip-search machines that will be appearing at 
airports across the country, how much radiation do they actually release and 

how does this compare to the radiation we are normally exposed to anyway? 
How dangerous are these machines, if at all, for someone who does a lot of 
flying?  I understand that there are two technologies the TSA uses to peer 
through clothing:  

"One uses millimeter waves - does this involve any radiation; is it 
completely safe?  
"The other is the backscatter X-ray."  

Ed Hiserodt 
Maumelle, AR 
501 258 2571