[ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?

Tue Nov 2 02:54:36 CDT 2010

In accordance with The Instructions, I stopped breathing and held my 
breath in my hands. I became distracted by a passing greenhouse and 
accidentally dropped my breath. Being a bit drowsy, I was not able to 
see where it went -- I've searched all of the floor, under the 
furniture, and in the closet. My dog has been checked, but he is all out 
of breath. I cannot find my breath and am in need of help.
Thanks for your assistance,
Maury&Dog [Maury Siskel  maurysis at peoplepc.com]
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gelsg at aol.com wrote:

>Honest to God, I didn't notice that it was going to the whole list.  I thought I was just replying to Larry.  But it is what I was thinking, so start holding your breath, you climate-change-denier......
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>Jerry
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Guy Cooley <cooleyguy at yahoo.com>
>To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>Sent: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 7:46 pm
>Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?
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>So contrived!
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>gelsg at aol.com wrote:
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>Larry:
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>I almost sent the same email.  (Glad it was you instead.)
>I agree.  A good leader (like Ed) should lead by example.  :-)
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>Jerry Gels
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>From: Jess L. Addis III <ajess at clemson.edu>
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>Sent: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 2:27 pm
>Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?
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>Great idea!  Do us a favor Ed, you go first.
>Larry Addis
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>rom: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Edmond Baratta
>ent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:31 AM
>o: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>ubject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?
>Jerry:
>We must first stop breathing for at least one hour of a day.  Think of how 
>uch CO2 we will save.  First start with the Governments.  However the 
>rees, plants, grass will not appreciate this.
>Ed Baratta
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>rom: "Rosen, Jerry C" <jcrosen at pitt.edu>
>ent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 3:23 PM
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>ubject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?
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>>1. The Green House Effect is a recognized scientific fact.
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> 2. It is recognized that CO2 contributes to the phenomenon.
> 3. Modern technology, automobiles, power plants etc. generate CO2.
> 4. The green house effect results in warming of the atmosphere which 
> directly effects climate.
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> Therefore, CO2 and man's actions contribute to climate change.
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> One can argue the degree of contribution but not whether the phenomenon 
> exists.
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> 4. Fact: CO2 is not the only green house gas that is generated by man's 
> activities.
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> 5. Fact: sun spots don't contribute to ocean acidity.
> 6. Fact: There has been a significant change in ocean acidity in the last 
> 150 years.
> 7  Fact: CO2 is the major contributor to ocean acidity.
> 8. Fact: There is already recognizable damage to coral reefs from ocean 
> acidity.
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> Ocean acidity is not far below the level that will result in dissolution 
> of reefs and prevent shell fish from forming shells.
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> So completely ignore climate change but don't plan to go scuba diving on 
> reefs or eat oysters in the future.
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> The potential impact goes far beyond what I've described.
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> Don't worry about that either because we can't afford to make the changes 
> to limit the problem and the full effect may not happen in our life time.
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> Let me get personal. My father-in-law will turn 100 next year. He has a 5 
> year old grandson. This has caused me to rethink my attitude about many 
> things. Mostly, I make decisions which might affect people on a century 
> scale not my projected and somewhat limited life span.
> I worry about bankrupting my children, grandchildren and potential 
> succeeding generations with the national debt. So do a lot of people.
> The people who scream the most about the debt tend to be many of the 
> climate change deniers.
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> Because of the debt, my great grandchildren may not be able to afford 
> food, shelter or clothing, but I don't worry about this because the earth 
> won't be inhabitable anyway.
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> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu 
> [radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Quastel 
> [maay100 at bgu.ac.il]
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:13 PM
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> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?
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> I have been concerned to hear during the past year or so, even  from
> this otherwise informative and properly skeptical group, statements
> that findings of climate warming- or more properly climate change- is
> some sort of fraud, scam or conspiracy. The geologic and
> oceanographic evidence so far really does seem to support that
> climate change is taking place in our own lifetime. Whether it will
> turn out to be man made, a natural cycle, some sort of solar
> phenomenon, temporary or cumulative in the long run remains to be
> seen. There is nothing wrong with being skeptical -  indeed, that is
> the proper scientific approach -  but in view of the potentially very
> serious global consequences, it would be wise to keep an open mind on
> the subject and most definitely not rule out the possibility of human
> causation.
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> Mike Quastel
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