[ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?

Howard Long howard.long at comcast.net
Tue Nov 2 18:20:01 CDT 2010


Doug,
You are correct - if considering morbidity also
That is why I threw in the eye irritation.
Air is much cleaner, except with rare events that do need prevention like Bopal.

Howard Long 

On Nov 2, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Doug Aitken <jdaitken at sugar-land.oilfield.slb.com> wrote:

> Epidemiologist?
> I think the statement about deaths from air pollution are surprising, if
> indeed this is your profession.....
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/2545747.stm would seem to indicate your timing is
> off by a few hundred years.... 
> 
> And how are you classifying air pollution? Maybe Bhopal is an unfair
> example? But I would have thought there is some incidence of respiratory
> illnesses associated with industrial air pollution?
> 
> Maybe a few less snide remarks and a bit more effort at scientific
> justification would befit this list.... 
> 
> Regards
> Doug
> PS: I'm done with this discussion. 
> 
> Doug Aitken
> QHSE Advisor, Schlumberger D&M Operations Support
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Should other countries pay us, since CO2 coming into the USA (usual westerly
> winds) is 387 ppm and leaving is LESS at 385 ppm (both increasing)?
> Our expanding forests (50% more than 50 years ago) take in more CO2 than our
> cars, coal buning etc put out.
> 
> Also, the only significant mortality from air pollution was 400 years ago in
> wood-burning, fog-retaining London. My eyes burned in summer in Pleasanton
> 50 years ago but not since despite 10 x the population, downwind from SF.
> Even in Calif., some things are better. 
> 
> Howard Long, epidemiologist 
> 
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:11 AM, garyi at trinityphysics.com wrote:
> 
>> Doug,
>> 
>> If we can do that without a crazy scheme to pay other countries for 
>> our CO2, and without pretending that CO2 is industrial waste (haha, 
>> good one EPA!) and without further bankrupting ourselves and our children,
> then count me in.
>> 
>> BTW, that reminds me: where are all those new nuclear power plants?  
>> Wouldn't that be a good place to start, if one was afraid of CO2?  
>> Didn't the president promise something about that?  Don't hold your 
>> breath (for all you GW true believers who nobly limit your emissions to
> save the rest of us).
>> 
>> -Gary Isenhower
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Nov 2010 at 11:42, Doug Aitken wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So as (hopefully!) sane people, can we not agree that we can do a 
>> better job of this disposal, as a means to minimize our impact? And 
>> any talk of human (and animal) body emissions is a bit childish.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Doug Aitken
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