[ RadSafe ] Busby2

Wed Apr 20 13:28:53 CDT 2011

Chris

Without stating a too obvious question, and I guess a too obvious answer... Why the attacks? What is it that drives people to attack what you say? Thing is, I do believe elements of internal dosimetry are wonky (ICRP), so why do your ideas, or the way you present them, course such a fuss?

Mark

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On 20 Apr 2011, at 19:16, "Busby Chris" <C.Busby at ulster.ac.uk> wrote:

> 
> Right.
> There also seems to be some idea that either I am making myself rich on all this or I am trying to become a Green Minister in Europe.
> Most of my life I have been extremely poor. Most of the work I have done from 1995 has been funded off and on by the Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust, a Quaker Charity. They have paid me about 25,000 pounds a year; that is what I have lived on. This grant has now stopped. Probably as a result of the attacks on my credibility that you and your friends find so easy to carry out. I have done a few USA court cases but my income is generally low. I am 65 and now have a government pension of £5000 a year and will probably have to live on my boat from next year unless someone bails me out. But I have 7 children and 11 grandchildren and they will look after me if it comes to it.
> I stood for the Green Party in 1994 in the European Elections. I have not stood since, so this idea of Wakeford is also some kind of attack with no basis.
> So that is me.
> Do you want to tell us all about you?
> Sincerely
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Franz Schönhofer
> Sent: Wed 20/04/2011 15:56
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList'; 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing    List'
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Busby
> 
> Chris,
> 
> First of all, could you please enlighten me, why you do not like my name or
> what is suspicious in it? I have been posting to RADSAFE almost decades now,
> using my name. You could - if you cared to find out, instead of flaming
> without any background - find on the internet quite a few papers, comments
> and mentionings about me. I do not think it is necessary to justify my
> comments on RADSAFE with titles, academic degrees or whatsoever. 
> 
> You seem not to read the posts before answering them: Yes, I attacked your
> way of agitating, your way of earning money by claiming superior
> qualifications both at a (to me unknown) university and at law cases in the
> USA. I have no reason to recall anything of that. I have addressed this
> clearly, but you are obviously so much one track minded that you do not even
> recognize it. You have not answered my questions - well I did not expect it.
> 
> 
> Food for thought about Chris Busby for RADSAFERs!
> 
> Franz
> 
> Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
> MinRat i.R.
> Habicherg. 31/7
> A-1160 Wien/Vienna
> AUSTRIA
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Busby Chris
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2011 13:10
> An: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List;
> The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList
> Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Busby
> 
> To Schoenhofer, if thats his real name:
> 
> You also attack me but do not address the argument.
> 
> Sincerely
> Chris
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Franz Schönhofer
> Sent: Tue 19/04/2011 22:38
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList'
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Busby
> 
> Otto (and RADSAFErs),
> 
> Do you really think you can convince somebody like Busby, who's credentials
> are more than vague (how often have I myself been a visiting scientist at a
> university???, I have also been professor and a highly ranked government
> employee with respect to radiation protection). Busby holds "positions" at
> fake "European commissions", cites fake journals for his scientific
> credentials. He works with a self declared "German Radiation Protection
> Association", which is nothing but a bunch of radical anti-nuclear people,
> some of whom have been threatened to be thrown out by their universities
> because of confirmed falsification of data, whose attempted contributions to
> international conferences have been harshly refused not only because of lack
> of scientific substance, but also because the co-authors cited did not know
> about their honor and fiercly refused to be named in connection with the
> rubbish of Schmitz-Feuerhake  and who have nothing to do with the world
> renown "German-Swiss Fachverband für Strahlenschutz".  
> 
> I am tired of fighting windmills (Don Quichote), so I keep this comment
> rather short. 
> 
> Still a good question remains - how is Busby making his money for living?
> How much does he earn by his many involvements into US law-cases? What are
> his contributions to them, how does he get into this "inner circle" of
> "experts", though all really knowledgable scientists regard him as a
> charlatan? How much does he earn by presenting his queer ideas at various
> anti-nuclear groups and their meetings? 
> 
> I have for instance worked three weeks for the IAEA as the head of the
> Terrestrial Working Group of the Mururoa Project, collecting samples, doing
> on site dose measurements. Transport to Mururoa, lodging and food was
> provided by the French Government and I received from the IAEA a per diem of
> 40 (fourty) US$. This was just enough to call from time to time to my
> children, who spent vacations in Finland at their Finnish grandparents farm.
> So much for "being bribed" by the IAEA to cover up the deadly effects of the
> nuclear tests. 
> 
> Busby excuses himself, that many European state have not provided data on
> cancers or whatsoever to "us". I do not think that any European state is
> obliged to send data on whatsoever to whomsoever and especially not to
> Busby, who is not even known to most (if not all) European scientists and
> sure not at all to any government. It should be the task of him to search
> for the data actively, contacting foreign authorities and probably medical
> societies. 
> 
> I noticed that Busby is not really answering straight questions, but starts
> to ridicule those who are opposed to his tactics. He is clearly a very good
> example for the saying: 
> 
> Don't disturb me with facts, I have made up my mind.
> 
> All of his "reasoning" and his mails are disgusting. 
> 
> I would appreciate any serious comment to this mail.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Franz
> 
> 
> Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
> MinRat i.R.
> Habicherg. 31/7
> A-1160 Wien/Vienna
> AUSTRIA
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Otto G. Raabe
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. April 2011 21:13
> An: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Leukemias and Chernobyl + European Journal...
> 
> April  19, 2011
> 
> Claims of an epidemic of cancer from the 
> Chernobyl accident have not been validated. There 
> was no apparent major effects of widespread 
> public exposure to ionizing radiation from the 
> Chernobyl accident except for thyroid disease 
> associated with very high acute radiation doses 
> from short-lived 131I in milk. See World Health 
> Organizion (WHO), Health Effects of the Chernobyl 
> Accident and Special Health Care Programmes, 
> Geneva, Switzerland: World Health Organization 
> 2006, and also Z. Jaworowski,Observations on the 
> Chernobyl Disaster and LNT. Dose Response 8: 148-171; 2010.
> 
> Otto
> 
> 
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