[ RadSafe ] Busby2/ checkmate
Busby Chris
C.Busby at ulster.ac.uk
Thu Apr 21 14:26:08 CDT 2011
The reason I am attacked is because I am correct, and the result of that would be the closure of the nuclear industry and litigation against those who are covering this up. Also significant effects of military use of uranium. Also a crash in the shares of those who invest in uranium. Also bad news for health physics which is basically a technician application of the ICRP model. There is so much evidence that these cover ups exist that you can find if you look. I have written a book with proof. Wolves of Water. I was at a WHO conference in Kiev on Chernobyl where the cover up by UNSCEAR was actually captured on video. I have the video. It was transmitted on Swiss TV as a documentary. I have so much evidence on this. But what I am trying to do here is to look at the Chernobyl infants paper. You asked for a paper showing ICRP was wildly wrong for interanl. Here it is. Why is it you guys do everything but look at that paper. So far only only one you has done so, and his suggestion is that the inrcreased leukemias were a result in a sudden change in vegetable and fruit eating that lasted only as long as the exposure.
If between you you cant demolish this paper, I will take it that I have won this exchange. Check Mate, I think.
Sincerely
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Franz Schönhofer
Sent: Wed 20/04/2011 20:24
To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList'
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Busby2
Mark,
You pose a very simple and easy question and there is a very simple and easy
answer to it:
Chris Busby is one of the many people, who accuse serious scientists of
hiding, twisting and falsifying data and their consequences - but actually
he and the other ones like are the ones who twist, falsify and hide data
which do not support their claims. There is so much evidence on it, that I
am sorry, that I refuse to start citing even part of that.
I am tired of being accused as part of the scientific community in papers
and other massmedia of being a part of the "cover-up team", the "criminal
belittlement-team" etc. Chris Busby is part of the iresponsible people, who
feed these ressentiments. And they make their money, even if Busby states
that he is very poor. I am poor to, but this would not cause me to support a
movement, which is against my conscience.
Best regards,
Franz
Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna
AUSTRIA
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Mark Ramsay
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2011 20:29
An: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Busby2
Chris
Without stating a too obvious question, and I guess a too obvious answer...
Why the attacks? What is it that drives people to attack what you say? Thing
is, I do believe elements of internal dosimetry are wonky (ICRP), so why do
your ideas, or the way you present them, course such a fuss?
Mark
Sent from my iPhone
On 20 Apr 2011, at 19:16, "Busby Chris" <C.Busby at ulster.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Right.
> There also seems to be some idea that either I am making myself rich on
all this or I am trying to become a Green Minister in Europe.
> Most of my life I have been extremely poor. Most of the work I have done
from 1995 has been funded off and on by the Joseph Rowntree Charitable
Trust, a Quaker Charity. They have paid me about 25,000 pounds a year; that
is what I have lived on. This grant has now stopped. Probably as a result of
the attacks on my credibility that you and your friends find so easy to
carry out. I have done a few USA court cases but my income is generally low.
I am 65 and now have a government pension of £5000 a year and will probably
have to live on my boat from next year unless someone bails me out. But I
have 7 children and 11 grandchildren and they will look after me if it comes
to it.
> I stood for the Green Party in 1994 in the European Elections. I have not
stood since, so this idea of Wakeford is also some kind of attack with no
basis.
> So that is me.
> Do you want to tell us all about you?
> Sincerely
> Chris
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Franz Schönhofer
> Sent: Wed 20/04/2011 15:56
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList';
'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Busby
>
> Chris,
>
> First of all, could you please enlighten me, why you do not like my name
or
> what is suspicious in it? I have been posting to RADSAFE almost decades
now,
> using my name. You could - if you cared to find out, instead of flaming
> without any background - find on the internet quite a few papers, comments
> and mentionings about me. I do not think it is necessary to justify my
> comments on RADSAFE with titles, academic degrees or whatsoever.
>
> You seem not to read the posts before answering them: Yes, I attacked your
> way of agitating, your way of earning money by claiming superior
> qualifications both at a (to me unknown) university and at law cases in
the
> USA. I have no reason to recall anything of that. I have addressed this
> clearly, but you are obviously so much one track minded that you do not
even
> recognize it. You have not answered my questions - well I did not expect
it.
>
>
> Food for thought about Chris Busby for RADSAFERs!
>
> Franz
>
> Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
> MinRat i.R.
> Habicherg. 31/7
> A-1160 Wien/Vienna
> AUSTRIA
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Busby Chris
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2011 13:10
> An: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List;
> The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList
> Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Busby
>
> To Schoenhofer, if thats his real name:
>
> You also attack me but do not address the argument.
>
> Sincerely
> Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Franz Schönhofer
> Sent: Tue 19/04/2011 22:38
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList'
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Busby
>
> Otto (and RADSAFErs),
>
> Do you really think you can convince somebody like Busby, who's
credentials
> are more than vague (how often have I myself been a visiting scientist at
a
> university???, I have also been professor and a highly ranked government
> employee with respect to radiation protection). Busby holds "positions" at
> fake "European commissions", cites fake journals for his scientific
> credentials. He works with a self declared "German Radiation Protection
> Association", which is nothing but a bunch of radical anti-nuclear people,
> some of whom have been threatened to be thrown out by their universities
> because of confirmed falsification of data, whose attempted contributions
to
> international conferences have been harshly refused not only because of
lack
> of scientific substance, but also because the co-authors cited did not
know
> about their honor and fiercly refused to be named in connection with the
> rubbish of Schmitz-Feuerhake and who have nothing to do with the world
> renown "German-Swiss Fachverband für Strahlenschutz".
>
> I am tired of fighting windmills (Don Quichote), so I keep this comment
> rather short.
>
> Still a good question remains - how is Busby making his money for living?
> How much does he earn by his many involvements into US law-cases? What are
> his contributions to them, how does he get into this "inner circle" of
> "experts", though all really knowledgable scientists regard him as a
> charlatan? How much does he earn by presenting his queer ideas at various
> anti-nuclear groups and their meetings?
>
> I have for instance worked three weeks for the IAEA as the head of the
> Terrestrial Working Group of the Mururoa Project, collecting samples,
doing
> on site dose measurements. Transport to Mururoa, lodging and food was
> provided by the French Government and I received from the IAEA a per diem
of
> 40 (fourty) US$. This was just enough to call from time to time to my
> children, who spent vacations in Finland at their Finnish grandparents
farm.
> So much for "being bribed" by the IAEA to cover up the deadly effects of
the
> nuclear tests.
>
> Busby excuses himself, that many European state have not provided data on
> cancers or whatsoever to "us". I do not think that any European state is
> obliged to send data on whatsoever to whomsoever and especially not to
> Busby, who is not even known to most (if not all) European scientists and
> sure not at all to any government. It should be the task of him to search
> for the data actively, contacting foreign authorities and probably medical
> societies.
>
> I noticed that Busby is not really answering straight questions, but
starts
> to ridicule those who are opposed to his tactics. He is clearly a very
good
> example for the saying:
>
> Don't disturb me with facts, I have made up my mind.
>
> All of his "reasoning" and his mails are disgusting.
>
> I would appreciate any serious comment to this mail.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Franz
>
>
> Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
> MinRat i.R.
> Habicherg. 31/7
> A-1160 Wien/Vienna
> AUSTRIA
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Otto G. Raabe
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. April 2011 21:13
> An: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Leukemias and Chernobyl + European Journal...
>
> April 19, 2011
>
> Claims of an epidemic of cancer from the
> Chernobyl accident have not been validated. There
> was no apparent major effects of widespread
> public exposure to ionizing radiation from the
> Chernobyl accident except for thyroid disease
> associated with very high acute radiation doses
> from short-lived 131I in milk. See World Health
> Organizion (WHO), Health Effects of the Chernobyl
> Accident and Special Health Care Programmes,
> Geneva, Switzerland: World Health Organization
> 2006, and also Z. Jaworowski,Observations on the
> Chernobyl Disaster and LNT. Dose Response 8: 148-171; 2010.
>
> Otto
>
>
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