[ RadSafe ] Chris Busby physicists and chemists

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Fri Apr 22 09:23:42 CDT 2011


<You cannot apply physics to human health.>

That's what they told Roentgen and we know how that turned out.


---- Busby Chris <C.Busby at ulster.ac.uk> wrote: 
> I mean that health physicist is a contradiction in terms.
> You cannot apply physics to human health.
> Biological systems are too complex to be dealt with in some primitive stress/strain way as if they are pieces of wire being stretched. This is what your ICRP model does.
> The physical chemistry of dilute solution molecular interactions at the living system molecule level is where you have to begin. I mean, do you even knopw what an affinity constant is and how to measure it? Im not saying you should know, you will not have been taught it. I have talked with a lot of health physicists (and physicists in this area). They know no chemistry and see the field as some applied mathematics domain. But it is very important to know these things or you get it wrong. Did you know what happens at a decay position in ionisation when a dipositive ion of one element turns suiddenly into a tripositive element of another element? Do you think that matters? Its  not factored into ICRP as a dose. Why?
> Chris
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Steven Dapra
> Sent: Fri 22/04/2011 01:21
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Chris Busby
>  
> April 21
> 
>          How is it a contradiction in terms?  You 
> are NOT a health physicist.  You are a chemist, in case you have forgotten.
> 
> Steven Dapra
> 
> 
> At 12:27 PM 4/21/2011, you wrote:
> 
> >I am not a health physicist. This is a contradiction in terms
> >Sincerely
> >Chris
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Franta, Jaroslav
> >Sent: Thu 21/04/2011 14:32
> >To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList
> >Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Chris Busby
> >
> >UNRESTRICTED | ILLIMITÉ
> >
> ><snip>
> >          For all we know, Busby may be the best 
> > chemist in the UK.  He is not a health physicist.
> >
> >Steven Dapra
> 
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