[ RadSafe ] Psychological Impacts of Chernobyl

Richard Gallego rich at tgainc.com
Thu Apr 28 19:37:44 CDT 2011


Steve,

I believe it is a useful exercise to have Mr. Busby's claims debunked by
experts in the field. If not us, then who? I'm afraid that if we fail to
respond, the uninformed might believe what he has to say. If nothing else is
accomplished, most of us now know what his views are and the arguments
against them.

Rich Gallego

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Dapra
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:11 PM
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Psychological Impacts of Chernobyl

April 28

         Chris Busby talks nonsense and is reluctant to substantiate any of
his claims.  He is a chemist, not a health physicist.  He considers himself
to be more of an authority on radioactivity than is the ICRP.  He finally
gave a few citations, some of them to Nature.  Then, in another e-mail he
called Nature a "rag."

         He complained loud and long that no one would address his claims
about infant leukemias in the aftermath of Chernobyl.  When I posted a
message here directly addressing his claims about said leukemias he dropped
out of sight.  Does that sound like a "debate", much less an "honest
debate"?

         In my estimation, calling Nature a "rag," or claiming the Fukushima
accident will lead to hundreds of thousands of additional cancers, does not
exactly constitute "divergent points of view."

         The "fact of the matter is" that most of the world does not care
about the benefits or risks of the peaceful use of radioactive materials.
One can't even lead this horse to water, let alone make him drink.

         Busby and his fellow travelers are not filling any void of
inadequate education.  What they are doing is spewing more hogwash into an
already vast ocean of hogwash.

         And, yes, next time I'll really let you know what I think.

Steven Dapra


At 01:00 PM 4/28/2011, you wrote:
>Franz,
>
>You ask why Chris Busby still gets space on radsafe. Radsafe would be 
>much less interesting without the debate that comes from divergent 
>points of view. The fact of the matter is, our industry has not done a 
>good enough job of educating the world on the benefits and true risks 
>related to the peaceful use of radioactive materials. People like Mr. 
>Busby have rushed in to fill that void. We all win with honest debate.
>
>Rich Gallego
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Franz 
>Schönhofer
>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:39 AM
>To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) 
>MailingList'; radsafe at agni.phys.iit.edu
>Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Psychological Impacts of Chernobyl
>
>Leo and RADSAFErs,
>
>I do not have access to the literature you gave, but I heavily doubt 
>your statement, that "the number of excess induced abortions in Europe 
>due to this fear has been estimated in the tens of thousands, and even
higher".
>
>Some people, one of the most noisy is Chris Busby, have claimed very 
>high numbers of abortions.

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