[ RadSafe ] Chinese fast reactor starts supplying electricity 21July 11

Mon Aug 1 13:41:14 CDT 2011

Does this type fast reactor design considered GenIV. And how it is described
in terms of non-proliferation?

Best regards

Khalid A. Aleissa

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Boing, Lawrence E. <lboing at anl.gov> wrote:

> There has been a considerable amount of info exchange done on these
> reactors through the IAEA.  Check www.iaea.org - including decommissioning
> as well as operational aspects.
>
> Larry Boing
> Argonne National Laboratory
> Nuclear Engineering Division/Special Projects
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:
> radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Dixon, John E.
> (CDC/ONDIEH/NCEH)
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:16 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Chinese fast reactor starts supplying electricity
> 21July 11
>
> I was a student and a staff ELT instructor at the D1G NPTU prototype in
> Ballston Spa, NY back in the 1980's. The first core in this prototype was a
> sodium cooled reactor core. Perhaps there is someone out there who remembers
> working at that facility.
>
> John Dixon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:
> radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Ted de Castro
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:21 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Chinese fast reactor starts supplying electricity
> 21July 11
>
> Yes - all that sodium submerged in the huge water environment doesn't
> seem to make much sense - at least on first blush.
>
> I encountered the SeaWolf as a shipyard RadCon HP and got to see them
> cut her in half and add a 30 ft section.  An interesting experience of
> seeing brute force applied with finesse.  Or course she was a PWR by
> then - distinguished from the new plants in that you could traverse the
> length of the ship by walking through a section above the reactor
> compartment - between the CRDM's - called I am told - "Sherwood Forest".
>
> On 7/26/2011 10:01 AM, Brennan, Mike (DOH) wrote:
> > My first Captain on the Daniel Webster had been a junior officer on the
> > Seawolf when she had the sodium plant (they later replaced it with a
> > pressurized water reactor).  He said that it was a fairly intense
> > experience.  One of the jokes was that the Auxiliary Primary Coolant
> > Leak Alarm was sonar reporting repeated explosions amidships.
> >
> > I can take rad in stride, but tons of molten sodium, surrounded by
> > water, would make me nervous.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Ted de Castro
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:52 AM
> > To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Chinese fast reactor starts supplying
> > electricity 21July 11
> >
> > Not to mention that the USS Seawolf was originally a sodium plant.  I
> > think maybe one or two other US subs were as well (George Washington
> > maybe??) - but can only assuredly speak to the Seawolf.
> >
> > On 7/26/2011 8:43 AM, Brennan, Mike (DOH) wrote:
> >> The Russians, back in the Soviet days, did do some interesting things
> >> with liquid metal cooled reactors.  I remember when I read the real
> >> scoop about the lead-bismuth reactors on the Alpha class submarines.
> > As
> >> a former submariner I was impressed by both the imagination needed to
> >> see that as a solution to the power-density problem, and the
> >> bone-headedness of not seeing why this might not be a good idea.  I'm
> >> not sure which would worry me more: the possibility of a primary
> > coolant
> >> leak, which means I'm sharing my tube of air with an uncontrolled
> > stream
> >> of molten metal, or a reactor shutdown that lasts so long the metal in
> >> the reactor starts to solidify, which can leave you a long way from
> > home
> >> with very limited resources for getting back.
> >>
> >> Still, I wish the Chinese the best of luck with their new reactor.
> > The
> >> world-wide nuclear power community could use a little good news.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> >> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Maury
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:45 AM
> >> To: Radsafe
> >> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Chinese fast reactor starts supplying electricity
> >> 21July 11
> >>
> >> Forwarded by
> >> Maury&Dog [MaurySiskel  maurysis at peoplepc.com]
> >> ===========================================
> >> WNN
> >> New Nuclear
> >> Chinese fast reactor starts supplying electricity
> >> 21 July 2011
> >>
> >> Exactly one year after achieving first criticality, China's
> > experimental
> >> fast neutron reactor has been connected to the electricity grid.
> >>
> >> At 10.00am today, the head of China National Nuclear Corporation
> > (CNNC),
> >> Sun Qin, declared to workers and officials gathered in the Chinese
> >> Experimental Fast Reactor's (CEFR's) control room that the unit had
> >> successfully achieved grid connection.
> >>
> >> The sodium-cooled, pool-type fast reactor has been constructed with
> > some
> >> Russian assistance at the China Institute of Atomic Energy (CIEA),
> > near
> >> Beijing, which undertakes fundamental research on nuclear science and
> >> technology. The reactor has a thermal capacity of 65 MW and can
> > produce
> >> 20 MW in electrical power. The CEFR was built by Russia's OKBM
> >> Afrikantov in collaboration with OKB Gidropress, NIKIET and Kurchatov
> >> Institute.
> >>
> >> Xu Mi, chief engineer at the CEFR program at CIEA, told Bloomberg that
> >> the unit was connected to the grid at 40% capacity. "The next step for
> >> us is to increase the generating capacity of the reactor to 100% while
> >> connected to the grid," he said. "After that, we can use the
> > technology
> >> to build our own commercial fast reactors."
> >>
> >> Beyond the pilot plant, China once planned a 600 MWe commercial scale
> >> version by 2020 and a 1500 MWe version in 2030 but these ambitious
> > ideas
> >> have been overtaken by the import of ready-developed Russian designs.
> > In
> >> October 2009, an agreement was signed by CIAE and China Nuclear Energy
> >> Industry Corporation (CNEIC) with AtomStroyExport to start pre-project
> >> and design works for a commercial nuclear power plant with two BN-800
> >> reactors with construction to start in August 2011, probably at a
> >> coastal site. The project is expected to lead to bilateral cooperation
> >> of fuel cycles for fast reactors, which promise to vastly extend the
> >> fuel value of uranium as well as reduce radioactive wastes.
> >>
> >> In April 2010, a joint venture company was established for the
> >> construction of China's first commercial-scale fast neutron reactor,
> >> near the inland city of Sanming in Fujian province. The joint venture
> > -
> >> Sanming Nuclear Power Co Ltd - was established by CNNC, Fujian
> >> Investment and Development Corp and the municipal government of
> > Sanming
> >> city. CNNC holds a majority stake in the venture.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Researched and written
> >>
> >> by World Nuclear News
> >>
> >>
> >>
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