[ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of CaliforniaRadiation Site
Dan McCarn
hotgreenchile at gmail.com
Thu Dec 22 17:29:07 CST 2011
My horse is so hot... I have to wear NOMEX when riding... And anyway,
it hasbetter radiation characteristics...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomex- Show quoted text -
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
> This thread shows that the egg nog must be flowing freely already.
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Jeff
>
> On Dec 22, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Dan W McCarn wrote:
>
>> Dear Group:
>>
>> I am spurred to answer, but you seem to be beating a dead horse, and
>> trotting-out the same old manure! I've had night-mares over this problem,
>> but you say neigh to my suggestion. You have been saddled with this for
>> decades - unbridled, I could make progress. The mane issue is merely a
>> shadow in the Mist. Franz, you are one of the few who understand when I
>> honestly say that the Mist was so thick, I must shovel it! And no truer
>> words were every sung, but standing next to my horse to hear the strains of
>> that song, "I get Misty whenever you're near"... "And I feel like I'm
>> clinging to your mane, I cannot refrain, I get misty jut holding your
>> rein"...
>>
>> Hay! It could be worse. Comment from dressage judge: "Airs above the
>> ground are best left to the Spanish Riding School"
>>
>> Dan ii
>>
>> P.S. Def. "Mist" - German == Horse manure
>> --
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Mercado, Donald
>> Paul. (ARC-QH)[CONSOLIDATED SAFETY SERVICES INC]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:44
>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of CaliforniaRadiation
>> Site
>>
>> Gentlemen,
>>
>> Please reign in your comments. We don't want to be saddled with these
>> decisions. I say neigh to any more these ass - i - nine comments or I'll be
>> forced to post more whithering protests! %^)
>>
>> Donald Mercado, Health Physicist
>> ________________________________________
>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>> [radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of ROY HERREN
>> [royherren2005 at yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:31 AM
>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
>> Site
>>
>> What do you suppose is the Mule's preferred operating system, Windows or
>> Apples? Somehow I suspect that Mules work best on an Apple operating
>> system.
>>
>> Roy Herren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Rees, Brian G" <brees at lanl.gov>
>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>> Sent: Thu, December 22, 2011 11:02:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
>> Site
>>
>> So what is the contamination limit for a mule hide???
>> It behooves us to know...
>>
>> That said, (and I'm sure there will be folks that will say it should have
>> been
>> unsaid!), there are films that show respirators on horses for Soviet
>> above-ground testing at the Semipalatinsk Test Site... the Chinese did the
>> same. But no PC's. Could be an issue with overheating??
>>
>>
>> Brian Rees
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Glenn R. Marshall
>> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:37 AM
>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
>> Site
>>
>> Of course, a better photo would be of a mule wearing Tyvek.......
>>
>> Glenn Marshall, CHP
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Dan W McCarn
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:09 PM
>> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList'
>> Cc: Nielsen.Erik at epamail.epa.gov
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
>> Site
>>
>> Great photo!
>>
>> And a great reason to use an equine in difficult terrain. I covered several
>> hundred kilometers in Northern Austria on my old horse, Boo, following
>> Chernobyl, scintillation counter in my saddlebags. I learned a great deal
>> about
>> dry and wet deposition of radionuclides (R/Ns) and about how R/Ns coat the
>> leaves in the forest providing significantly more radiation than in grassy
>> fields or farmed land. Altogether, a valuable experience.
>>
>> I have a project in mind for one of my horses next spring riding fields in
>> the
>> San Luis Valley in Southern Colorado with a 3x3" NaI(Tl) crystal and
>> 1024 channel spectrometer (if the sample rate is high enough, or the horse
>> is
>> slow enough). I'll be collecting data with an ADC and GPS on a laptop.
>> The intent is to study radium deposition in soils proximal to a uranium
>> feature
>> (regional redox-controlled, roll-front). Hopefully, this will inform my
>> soil-sampling plan. And, of course, I will be looking in detail at the
>> mineralogy of the soils involved...
>>
>> I suspect that uranium / radium was redistributed from high-volume
>> irrigation
>> wells near the redox front over the last 100 years of irrigated farming.
>> And,
>> of course, I'll be looking to contract for 500 bales of good horse hay!
>>
>> http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/te_1396_web.pdf
>> pp.289-315
>>
>> Dan ii
>>
>> --
>> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
>> 108 Sherwood Blvd
>> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
>> +1-505-672-2014 (Home - New Mexico)
>> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Stewart Farber
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 08:03
>> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
>> Site
>>
>> The procedure described isn't all that unusual. They're simply using a
>> modified
>> Geiger-muler [GM] detector.
>>
>>
>> Stewart Farber
>> SAFarber at optonline.net
>> www.farber-medical.com
>>
>>
>> =============
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
>> Nielsen.Erik at epamail.epa.gov
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:17 AM
>> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
>> Site
>>
>> Sometimes you got to think outside the box! Creative solution to a
>> difficult
>> situation.
>>
>> http://www.westernmulemagazine.com/image/webimage/MULES%20CONTRIBUTE%20BY%20
>> GREGG%20DEMPSEY.pdf
>>
>> Erik C. Nielsen
>> Health Physicist
>> USEPA, National Air and Radiation Environmental Laboratory
>> 540 South Morris Ave.
>> Montgomery, AL 36115
>> Phone 334-270-3475
>> Fax 334-270-3454
>>
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