[ RadSafe ] ICRP 1 mSv Annual General Public Limit

Tue Feb 22 02:22:52 CST 2011

I did not know that current mebers appoint their successors. I am very 
surprised. That could be part of the explanation why ICRP's directions are 
dogmatic, full of inconsistencies and even contradictions. Perhaps some of 
you would be interested in a paper I wrote on the matter some time ago. It 
appears in www.medical-physics.com

D.Okkalides
THEAGENEION Anticancer Hospital
Thessaloniki
Greece

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From: "Jerry Cohen" <jjc105 at yahoo.com>
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Dear Franz, et al,

Of course you are correct in pointing out that the ICRP has no regulatory
authority, but it certainly has a lot of influence in development of 
national
and international radiation directives. In this regard, they have 
essentially
served as the ultimate authority in setting guidance for radiation exposure.
Members of ICRP (and NCRP) are appointed by current members so that it is
unlikely that those with  differing viewpoints will  gain membership and
currently held viewpoints will generally find little or no opposition. In my
opinion, this is unfortunate since such self-perpetuating relationships 
lead to
"inbreeding" resulting in incestuous and misguided policies such as LNT and
ALARA.

Jerry Cohen

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Well said, Franz.
However, the truth is that in many aspects of radiation safety, country and
(e.g) EU "regulations" do follow closely the recommendations of the ICRP and
the "regulations" published by IAEA. And this is very evident (thank
goodness!) in the Transport Regulations. I recently had the pleasure of
reviewing the EU regulations for road transport (ADR, 2007/2009) and found
them, word-for-word, direct copies of the IAEA regs TS-R-1.

Regards
Doug

Doug Aitken
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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Franz Schönhofer
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 1:48 PM
To: 'Roy Parker'; 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
MailingList'
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] ICRP 1 mSv Annual General Public Limit

Roy and RADSAFErs,

With all due respect I would like to point to one very common
misunderstanding unfortunately abundant like a "disease" even among
radiation protection professionals.

The ICRP has no power, authorisation or any legal worldwide background to
set "limits" for doses or whatever with respect to radiation or anything
else. What it has is clearly a moral authority as a supranational
institution of independent, world wide recognized and respected scientists.
It does not set "limits", but gives recommendations, which may - or may not
- be incorporated into national laws. The same is true for the
recommendations of the WHO, the IAEA and the European Union (there might be
more bodies).

Therefore the discussions here about the "limit" of ICRP and the limits in
the USA is not really relevant - nobody can argue that he is keeping the
ICRP (or whatever) "limits", but has to observe the legal limits set by the
national legislation.

I have been watching closely the legislation about drinking water
radioactivity and even in the European Union Member States "limits" are by
far not uniform. Not to talk that even among those international scientific
bodies like ICRP and WHO the recommendations are not the same. Just one
brief example: The EU recommendations do not contain a recommended limit for
uranium on a mass basis, which would be the only way to handle it because of
uraniums chemotoxicity, the WHO does it.

Best regards,

Franz

Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
MinRat i.R.
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Wien/Vienna
AUSTRIA

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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Roy Parker
Gesendet: Montag, 21. Februar 2011 17:17
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Betreff: [ RadSafe ] ICRP 1 mSv Annual General Public Limit

What was the first year and publication in which ICRP established the 1 mSv
annual limit for members of the general public?

Roy A. Parker, Ph.D.
Radiation Physics Consultant
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