[ RadSafe ] Health Canada's Radiation Monitoring Data

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 Hi Cat...thanx for the info also....  BODY { font-family:Arial,
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 On Wed 06/29/11 5:20 PM , Catalina Kovats kovatsc at georgetown.edu
sent:
  Matt:
 The Rad-Net data was posted on EPA website at 
 http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/data-updates.html [1]
 Catalina
 -- 
 Catalina E. Kovats, M.S.
 Radiation Safety Officer
 Georgetown University EH&S
 LM-12 Preclinical Science Building
 3900 Reservoir Road, N.W.
 Washington, DC 20057-1431
 Phone (202) 687-4712
 Fax (202) 687-5046
 On 6/29/2011 2:37 PM, Matt sargent wrote:
 > FYI
 >
 > The link to Health Canada's Radiation Monitoring Data
 >
 > This is the link the CNSC supplied to monitor Radiation in Canada
and its
 > territories.
 >
 > That was mentioned in the original email below.
 >
 >
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hc-ps/ed-ud/respond/nuclea/data-donnees-eng.php#ddrl
[2]_
 > mar2011
 >
 >
 > I have tried to ask for the NRC comparison but have been given no
address
 > for any such location or information.
 >
 >
 > Matt Sargent
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Conklin, Al (DOH) [Al.Conklin at DOH.WA.GOV [3]]
 > Sent: June 29, 2011 11:59 AM
 > To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
MailingList
 > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fukushima Hot Particles
 >
 > A very nice concise summary. Thanks.
 >
 > Al Conklin
 > Lead Trainer and Health Physicist
 > Radiological Emergency Preparedness Section
 > Office of Radiation Protection
 > Department of Health
 > office: 360-236-3261
 > cell: 360-239-1237
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [4]
 > [radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [5]] On Behalf Of Matt sargent
 > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:24 AM
 > To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
Mailing List'
 > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fukushima Hot Particles
 >
 > Thought I Would share this email I have received regarding
questions to my
 > regulatory authority, regarding the hot particles.
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 >
 > Kindly,
 > Matt Sargent
 > Safety / Compliance Officer
 > matt at buffaloinspection.com [6]
 > Office # 780-486-7344
 > Fax # 780-486-4685
 > www.buffaloinspection.com [7]
 >
 >
 >
 >
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 > -
 >
 > Matt: here's from one of our specialists.
 >
 > Good Afternoon,
 >
 > You had raised some questions about hot particles and their
association with
 > the Fukushima events. NCRP Report No. 130- Biological Effects and
Exposure
 > Limits for Hot Particles- is a good source of reference information
about
 > hot particles, including their detection.
 >
 > Hot particles have typically been associated with nuclear reactors
and
 > weapons testing and are usually beta emitting or gamma/beta
emitting
 > radionuclides, commonly Co-60 and other fission fragments. NCRP
report No.
 > 130 defines hot particles as being greater than 10 microns and less
than
 > 3000 microns. Hot particles are loosely defined as "high activity"
 > particles. They are often electrically charged and are water
insoluble. Hot
 > particles are typically found on the skin, and therefore much
attention has
 > been given to the effects on the skin and on the skin dosimetry
related to
 > hot particles.
 >
 > Hot particles have been observed in association with the Chernobyl
 > accident. The associated long distance transit with the large fire
and
 > explosions essentially caused a ballistic launch through the upper
 > troposphere; not the usual mechanism of long range transit.
 >
 > Fukushima's primary containment was largely left intact; the
releases were
 > very different than with Chernobyl as they were mainly volatile in
nature.
 >
 > It is unlikely that hot particles will be observed as a result of
Fukushima
 > especially in North America. However, in the coming months and
years ahead,
 > much work will be done in relation to Fukushima at which time more
 > information will be available.
 >
 > Health Canada's network has observed volatile materials like
Cesium, iodine
 > etc. at stations outside of Japan and nothing that has looked like
a piece
 > of refractory material. In a few months, Health Canada may do some
 > autoradiograghy on some Canadian filters to look at activity
distribution of
 > longer lived materials.
 >
 > The reports which were linked in your e-mail (Fairwinds) make
several claims
 > of hot particles being breathed in every day and makes specific
claims of 5
 > hot particles/day being "breathed in" in Seattle. We have not found
any
 > credible information which supports this claim.
 >
 > It is notable that in NCRP Report No. 130 it is stated that there
have been
 > no reported clinically observable human injuries due to hot
particle
 > exposures in the workplace.
 >
 > I Hope this helps.
 >
 > Melanie
 >
 >
 > Regards,
 > Melanie Rickard
 > CNSC-CCSN
 > External Dosimetry Specialist
 > 613-996-7323
 >
 >
 >
 > ________________________________________
 > From: Matt Sargent [Matt at buffaloinspection.com [8]]
 > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:54 PM
 > To: Drolet, Marc
 > Subject: Thanks
 > Marc
 >
 > Thanks for the link, I appreciate the fast response. So is there an
 > accurate way to count the hot particles? For example you have Arnie
 > Gundersen and others talking about the amount of particles being
inhaled in
 > Japan Fukushima around 11 a day and Seattle around 5 a day. Is this
 > accurate? Even though very little radiation is being detected what
is the
 > possibility that it is being created by hot particles? It's a very
 > different situation if you are breathing the particles in rather
than just
 > absorbing the radiation/energy through the skin. As I am sure you
are
 > aware. I am just trying to understand the situation there is some
many
 > different explanations and opinions on it.
 >
 > Dose the Nuclear Regulatory Commission of the USA have a similar
setup for
 > monitoring radiation readings? I understand that the jet stream has
 > sheltered us for the most part while the majority has gone down to
our
 > southern neighbors. I have talked to associates that claim at times
 > upward of 30 x normal background. Is there any where that you know
of to
 > monitor the readings in the USA?
 >
 > Thanks for your time.
 >
 > Matt Sargent
 >
 > Kindly,
 > Matt Sargent
 > Safety Compliance Officer
 > matt at buffaloinspection.com [9]
 > Office # 780-486-7344
 > Fax # 780-486-4685
 > www.buffaloinspection.com [10]
 >
 >
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 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Peter Bossew [Peter.Bossew at reflex.at [11]]
 > Sent: June 28, 2011 2:06 PM
 > To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu [12]
 > Subject: [ RadSafe ] Fukushima Hot Particles
 >
 > Colleagues:
 >
 > Only now I noticed the 'hot particles' thread. I apologize if I
missed
 > something, and if I am repeating arguments.
 >
 > The only evidence for hot particles is
 >
 > (1) an autoradiography of an airfilter;
 > (2) an electron microscope picture of an isolated particle.
 > (3) XRF scan of the particle.
 > (4) gamma and alpha spcs of the bare HP. Also easily done (I did it
with
 > Chernobyl HPs.) The r.n. composition is very different from the
continuous
 > phase on the filter.
 >
 > This is all done quite easily by standard techniques.
 >
 > Does anybody know about such findings? Please let me know any
reference.
 > (I haven't seen any.)
 >
 > A gamma spectrum of an air filter is no evidence. A NaI spectrum is
just
 > ridiculous for this purpose.
 > The argument that Rn progenies attached to aerosols can appear as
HPs is
 > wrong. After a few hours 214Pb,Bi have decayed. 210Pb,Po are
usually not
 > present in enough activity, same for Tn. Btw. it can easily be
checked by
 > investigating BG filters, and if such suspected particle is found,
perform
 > g& a-spc on the isolated particle. Rn and Tn progenies are very
easy to
 > identify (should be a triviality in this forum.)
 >
 >
 > Generally speaking, the release conditions were such that there is
a
 > chance of HPs. Therefore experimental evidence would be valuable
 > contribution to understanding the accident.
 >
 >
 > Thx.
 >
 > Peter Bossew
 >
 >
 > (German Federal Radioprotection Authority, Berlin)
 >
 >
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