[ RadSafe ] Article and slide presentation on Fukushima by DadeMoeller Associates

Wed Jul 20 11:51:11 CDT 2011

Paul, Chris,

After having read Chris Busby's messages for many weeks I am not so sure, whether you both are joking or are serious.

Chris, did you fall for the widespread antinuclear propaganda or where do you take 25REM (whatever this is in the international SI units) from? I can tell you from my own personal experience as the head of the terrestrial working group of the IAEA Mururoa Project, that we have been doing sampling and measurements also in zones heavily contaminated by plutonium. We were "paid" 40 US$ per day, which was just enough to call my children on vacation in Finland. I dislike very much your attitude to reduce Japan to "sushi" and "sake", which is one of the typical arrogant generalisation, which is shown by so called "Westerners". There is more than that in Japan!!!

The same is true for "Go". Where do you take the 200 REM from, Rubin? I hope you are joking, but the question is whethzer something like the Fukushima accident is suitable for jokes, not to talk about the tsunami victims.. 

Anyway, best regards,

Franz

 <paulrubin713 at comcast.net> schrieb:
> Bad word Chris. 
> Take 200 Rem. Do not pass Go. 
> 
> On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:54 AM, Chris Steinmann <crsteinmann at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > A second thought...are there still HP techs needed over there?  I will
> > take 25 REM for about 200k/yr, acute or chronic.  Shit I would
> > probably consider 50 rem haha.   As long as I can live by a good sushi
> > and sake joint.
> > 
> > -Chris Steinmann
> > 
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Thompson, Dewey L
> > <DThompson3 at ameren.com> wrote:
> >> I receive periodic updates from Dade Moeller Associates, and one of the recent links in the last update was a copy of a presentation given at the HP Society Meeting in late June on "Japan Nuclear Fears - real and perceived dangers".    I thought Dr. Ray Johnson put together a well done presentation. Link below.
> >> 
> >> Dewey
> >> 
> >> http://radiationcounseling.org/docs/NuclearFears.pdf
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Or Tiny:
> >> 
> >> http://tiny.cc/dq0sb
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :
> >> DEWEY THOMPSON
> >> Staff HP
> >> Radiation Protection Department
> >> T 314.225.1061
> >> F 573.676.4484
> >> E DThompson3 at ameren.com
> >> .........................
> >> Ameren Missouri
> >> Junction CC & Highway O
> >> Fulton, MO 65251
> >> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Dapra
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 4:44 PM
> >> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Sternglass => Mangano scaremongering =>was:RE:Sci.Am. about Fukushima and US Pacific NW infant mortality
> >> 
> >> July 10
> >> 
> >>        Wikipedia's entry on Sternglass is revealing.
> >> 
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Sternglass
> >> 
> >>        In particular, read "Critical Responses" (for Alice Stewart's
> >> comments of an aspect of Sternglass), and "Three  Mile Island," for
> >> other criticisms (including one from Arthur Tamplin, of all people).
> >> 
> >>        On July 7th I wrote that over this weekend I would examine some 1969
> >> proceedings at Hanford where Sternglass, spoke and report to RADSAFE
> >> on what he said.  For reasons beyond my control it will be sometime
> >> this week before I can make good on this.
> >> 
> >> Steven Dapra
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> You are currently subscribed to the RadSafe mailing list
> >> 
> >> Before posting a message to RadSafe be sure to have read and understood the RadSafe rules. These can be found at: http://health.phys.iit.edu/radsaferules.html
> >> 
> >> For information on how to subscribe or unsubscribe and other settings visit: http://health.phys.iit.edu
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Note that any views or opinions presented in this message are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ameren. All e-mails are subject to monitoring and archival. Finally, the recipient should check this message and any attachments for the presence of viruses. Ameren accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. If you have received this in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to the message and deleting the material from any computer. Ameren Corporation
> >> 
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> You are currently subscribed to the RadSafe mailing list
> >> 
> >> Before posting a message to RadSafe be sure to have read and understood the RadSafe rules. These can be found at: http://health.phys.iit.edu/radsaferules.html
> >> 
> >> For information on how to subscribe or unsubscribe and other settings visit: http://health.phys.iit.edu
> >> 
> > _______________________________________________
> > You are currently subscribed to the RadSafe mailing list
> > 
> > Before posting a message to RadSafe be sure to have read and understood the RadSafe rules. These can be found at: http://health.phys.iit.edu/radsaferules.html
> > 
> > For information on how to subscribe or unsubscribe and other settings visit: http://health.phys.iit.edu
> _______________________________________________
> You are currently subscribed to the RadSafe mailing list
> 
> Before posting a message to RadSafe be sure to have read and understood the RadSafe rules. These can be found at: http://health.phys.iit.edu/radsaferules.html
> 
> For information on how to subscribe or unsubscribe and other settings visit: http://health.phys.iit.edu

--
Franz Schoenhofer, PhD, MinRat
Habicherg. 31/7
A-1160 Vienna
Austria
mobile: ++43 699 1706 1227