[ RadSafe ] Sr-90 in milk (re-named)

Edmond Baratta edmond0033 at comcast.net
Sat Jun 4 08:11:29 CDT 2011


Franz:

Strontium-89 is also reactor produced.  Depending upon the purity of 
Yttrium, some Strontium-90 can be produced.  It is used for bone therapy in 
cancer patients.  It has been produced by both the United Kingdom and 
Russia.  Several radiopharmaceutical firms obtain it from them and sell it 
in the USA.  I have never seen strontium-89 in fission products without 
Strontium-90.  Maybe they are analyzing for total radio-strontium and 
claiming Strontium-89.

Ed Baratta

edmond0033 at comcast.net

-----Original Message----- 
From: Busby, Chris
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:19 AM
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Cc: Glenn R. Marshall
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Sr-90 in milk (re-named)




-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of 
franz.schoenhofer at chello.at
Sent: Fri 6/3/2011 9:02 PM
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Cc: Glenn R. Marshall
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Sr-90 in milk (re-named)

Sorry Glenn, you are wrong.

Sr-89 is a fission product, it is also a pure beta emitter like Sr-90. So it 
causes problems when determining Sr-90 in fresh fission products and 
especially in the first days after the Chernobyl accident it caused 
problems, because many person doing measurements did not know it or simply 
neglected it, producing much to high valures for Sr-90. Measurement is not 
easy, in most traditional methods radiochemical separation is necessary (it 
is anyway, but not to this extent like in the presence of Sr-89). Also short 
lived yttrium isotopes pose a problem and I know of several cases where 
wrong results for Sr-90 were caused because of the wrong assumption that 
this other Y-isotope was Y-90 in equilibrium with Sr-90.

All these caveats might  also be applicable to the messages about Sr-90 and 
Sr-89 from Japan. One would have to know the details of the methods used.

Sr-89 is used for what you described, but it is produced by some accelerator 
reaction - you would not be able to separate Sr-89 from Sr-90 produced by 
nuclear fission - or would you?

Best regards,

Franz

---- "Glenn R. Marshall" <GRMarshall at philotechnics.com> schrieb:
> Sr-89 is predominantly a medical radionuclide, whereas Sr-90 predominantly 
> exists as a fission product.  I believe its primary use is treatment of 
> bone cancer.
>
> With increased testing for every radionuclide on the chart, it's not 
> surprising traces of oddball species pop up.
>
> Glenn
> (865) 257-2760
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu 
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Edmond Baratta
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 1:28 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList; 
> The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Sr-90 in milk (re-named)
>
> How can you have Sr-89, without Sr-90??
>
> Ed Baratta
> edmond0033 at comcast.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Dapra
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:07 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Sr-90 in milk (re-named)
>
> June 1
>
>          A trace.  Well, my goodness, it sounds like time to panic.  (You 
> go first, Chris, and show us how it's done.)
>
> Steven Dapra
>
>
> At 09:41 AM 6/1/2011, you wrote:
> >May 31
> >
> >          Has any Sr-90 been measured in milk in Hawaii?
> >
> >Steven Dapra
> >
> >No Sr-90, but a trace of Sr-89
> >
> >http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/docs/rert/RadNet-Sr-Milk-Public-Release-5-
> >24-2011.pdf
> >
> >That was from early April.  Someday we may get more data.
> >
> >Tony Harrison, MSPH
> >Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment Laboratory
> >Services Division
> >303-692-3046
>
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Sr89 is produced in nuclear explosions

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