[ RadSafe ] Prof O Raabe's recent paper, US centralization of RADSAFE

Thu Jun 16 10:59:32 CDT 2011

Franz,

I have learned in my short life that Europeans are taught English in
schools at a young age.  This is an advantage to us US citizens and
business worldwide.

I had an opportunity to choose Spanish or German to learn in high
school, and I chose Spanish since I saw it as becoming the next
dominant language in the US.  I continued to study Spanish in college
for the same reason.

It is clearly obvious that many RADSAFERS have worked outside the US.

I think you may overestimate the amount of "US Hardliners" here on RADSAFE.

Maybe you are a Austrian Hardliner.  Nationalism is present among all.

-Chris

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:22 PM,  <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> wrote:
> RADSAFErs,
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> I can fully confirm the words of my German collegue.  Unfortunately the political situation in Europe does not favor much of exchange of experience in our field and collegues seem not to be inclined for newsgroups. This might depend on our hierarchical structures. .
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> This is one of the reasons why I still am at RADSAFE - even taking shortcomings into consideration, sitting out temporary surveillance - it is by far the best source of knowledge about new developments, very valuable scientific contacts to US collegues  and nuclear news. Of course I would apprecite  if it became much more and really international. A recent comment by my "friend" Sandy Perle, who wrote about "foreign guests" on RADSAFE is a slash into the face of foreign  m e m b e r s  of RAdDSAFE but not surprising given his otherwise behaviour. I think he should tone down. .During the last years several good friends in Europe aqnd the Far East told me that they do occasionally lurk on RADSAFE, but stopped to conttribute, because it was so obviously and clearly US centralized. What is the problem with internalisation? In the European Union this is a very big task, though there are dozens of languages there! There is only one on RADSAFE!
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>> Dear Steven and others,
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>> Peter Hill
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>> ________________________________________
>> Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] im Auftrag von Steven Dapra [sjd at swcp.com]
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juni 2011 02:51
>> An: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>> Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Prof O Raabe's recent paper
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>> June 15
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>>          Franz, since you complain so much about RADSAFE, why don't
>> you found an Austrian or European equivalent of RADSAFE?  Although I
>> don't read, write, or speak any language other than English I might
>> join, and I won't bemoan all the postings about European or Austrian
>> matters that have no bearing on what is happening in the US of A.
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>>          The only "hype" I've ever seen here about Professor Raabe is
>> you, Franz, moaning and groaning about him.  If your computer has a
>> delete feature, may I suggest that you use it more often?
>>
>> Steven Dapra
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>> At 12:22 PM 6/15/2011, you wrote:
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>> >person Sorry firends, put forward his
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>> >I never have understood the hype about  "Prof" O Raabe. I do not
>> >remember that anybody at RADSAFE except this one has ever put
>> >forward his "Professor", at least I personally have not done
>> >it..  How many Professors did not mention their academic title,
>> >beause it is ridiculous? So what is it good for?
>> >
>> >I have recently sent a critical comment about a funny comment of
>> >Raabe. It has not been forwardded on RADSAFE. How intresting that
>> >RADSAFE is obviously again subject to censorship -  the land of the
>> >free???????
>> >
>> >Bet regards,
>> >
>> >Franz
>> >
>> >
>> >---- Chris Hofmeyr <chris.hofmeyr at webmail.co.za> schrieb:
>> > > Radsafers,
>> > >
>> > >  Prof O Raabe's recommendations in his recent paper (HPJ July
>> > 2011) should be
>> > > compulsive reading for the RP community. Thanks, Prof!
>> > >
>> > >  Chris Hofmeyr
>> > >
>> > >  chris.hofmeyr at webmail.co.za
>> > >
>> > >  **********************************************
>> > >  Prof. Otto G. Raabe, Ph.D., CHP
>> > >  Center for Health & the Environment
>> > >  University of California
>> > >  One Shields Avenue
>> > >  Davis, CA 95616
>> > >  E-Mail: ograabe at ucdavis.edu
>> > >  Phone: (530) 752-7754 FAX: (530) 758-6140
>> > >  ***********************************************
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